Everything you need to know about life after the Big 4 - Proven Recruiting (2024)

You landed a job at Deloitte, EY, KPMG or PwC. While initially exciting, reality has set in. Grueling hours, a demanding workload, and a seemingly endless numbers of audits have taken over – and that’s not even during busy season. Sound familiar?

For me, landing a job in Big 4 seemed like a massive success – until I actually started working. Quickly, work-life balance became something I read about wistfully while browsing the web at 5am because I’d been stress-dreaming again, and why go to sleep anyway when my alarm is about to sound?

It wasn’t a surprise, really. I knew the arduous hours and lack of social life were a known part of the job. Yet even though some accountants thrive in this kind of environment, I – like many – found myself searching for something new, different, inspiring.

But where could I go, when my education and sense of success were so wrapped up in the Big 4 ethos? I often mulled the same questions over and over again – What are my options? Is leaving worth the risk? Perhaps most importantly: is lifeactuallybetter elsewhere?

This article contains all of the information I wish I had when I made the decision to leave the Big 4 and become a Finance and Accounting Recruiter two years ago. If you’re up at 5 AM wondering about life after Big 4, this one’s for you.

Question 1: Should I stay or should I go?

The first thing you need to consider is your reasons for leaving. Will your qualms be alleviated by climbing the ladder in Big 4 – or can they only be addressed by taking a job somewhere else?

For example: for many, the inability to see a direct impact on other people is a deal breaker in the Big 4 environment. This only gets worse as you progress – though it may seem counter-intuitive, the more clients you have, the less connections you form.

The reality is, Big 4 accounting can be incredibly isolating. Not only is it solitary in nature, but the work itself is often met with little appreciation; auditors are notorious for being ‘annoying,’ even when simply doing their jobs. Add this to a distinct lack of work-life balance, and it becomes exceedingly clear – at least it did for me – that a major career shift is necessary. If isolation and under-appreciation are your issues, it might be time you also consider what’s next.

The scope and implications of this shift are entirely up to you. Some accountants will be perfectly satisfied moving to a boutique firm with a more manageable list of clients and services. Others will be drawn in-house, to play an active role in the success of an individual organization. Going in-house allows you to focus on contributing your efforts to–and forming relationships with–a single company.

Still others, like me, choose to move out of accounting entirely, seeking related opportunities with transferrable skill requirements. The key is in leveraging your assets – be they concrete ‘hard skills’ or more flexible ‘people skills’ – to your advantage.

Question 2: When should I go?

I’ve been in the Big 4, and I know the classic refrain – the longer you stay, the better the opportunities will be when you leave.

But for most of us, the “Partner Track” is the accounting equivalent to hiking Mt. Everest. Unless that is for you, it’s in your best interest to consider alternate tracks early on.

As a specialized Finance and Accounting Recruiter, who every day places accountants looking to transition out of Big 4, I can say with confidence that the ideal time to leave is as a Senior, after 2-3 busy seasons. I say this for two reasons:

Money. Once you make Manager or Senior Manager, you start to out-price yourself in the market.

Title. Companies often avoid recruiting Managers from Big 4 into Accounting Manager positions. Such candidates, though impressive in their own right, don’t possess the operational accounting experience necessary for the job – instead, they have only audit experience to offer.

You’ll find that it’s easier, faster, and less painful to make the jump from Big 4 Senior to Senior Accountant elsewhere (where you can then make your way up the ladder) than it is to transition from Manager to Accounting Manager elsewhere.

The one exception: if you’re looking to pursue a more technical accounting role, I’d suggest getting the Manager experience under your belt at one of the Big 4, where you’ll be focused on more technical areas (leasing, revenue recognition, derivatives, hedges, etc.).

Question 3: Where should I go?

AtProven Recruiting, we normally see people from Big 4 move into opportunities falling into one of five main buckets:

1. Operational Accounting.If you see yourself eventually becoming a Controller, this is your ideal route. Day-to-day work involves month-end closes, journal entries, etc.

2. Technical Accounting/SEC Reporting.Whereas SEC Reporting requires preparing 10Ks and Qs for public companies, Technical Accounting teams assist in the accounting of complex transactions such as business combinations, M&A, and derivatives.

3. Internal Audit.Coming out of audit at one of the Big 4, you may be quick to dismiss an internal audit position – after all, that’s exactly what you’re trying to escape. But internal audit actually has a lot to offer: It boasts a great work-life balance; there are no month-end or quarter-end closes, making for a steady, consistent schedule. You’ll have the opportunity to interact with people at all layers of the company as you conduct your audit.

4. Finance/FP&A.The majority of people leaving Big 4 are hoping to move into finance. But it’s not an easy journey; though finance roles do exist for CPAs, they are not only rare, but incredibly competitive to land. If you’re looking to get into finance, I would recommend finding a company you love where you can build your reputation as an accountant. From there, you can try to naturally work your way into finance.

5. Something else entirely.Outside of these four groups, your options are essentially endless. Maybe you’re ‘over’ accounting and looking for something entirely new – when I left, for instance, I knew I wanted to use the skills and knowledge I had developed at Big 4 and apply them to something where I could interact with people and flex my social muscles. For me, that meant Recruiting. It was the perfect combination of developing relationships, interacting with similarly-minded people, and putting to use my Finance and Accounting knowledge to help others. If you’re considering recruiting, I’d love toget in touchand share my experience.

Question 4: How do I make the leap?

Inside tip: as soon as recruiters receive an order for an accounting position, they filter their LinkedIn search results by ‘Big 4.’ With that experience in your resume, you’re already well ahead of the competition.

Big 4 and CPA are the gold standard – and they’re usually enough to get you noticed by recruiters and into that first interview. But what then? Selling yourself is difficult in any profession, and interviews are universally abhorred. But with Big 4 in your work history, you’ve set the bar high; now it’s time to exceed those expectations.

Your best bet is in communicating to your interviewer that, having gained valuable knowledge in Big 4, you are looking for somewhere you can build your tenure and grow in your career. Presenting your pitch in terms of long-term fit will help the interviewer picture your future at the company.

Ask questions that show your interest in the long game:

– ‘How do you see this position developing in the 2, 5, 10 years?’

– ‘What are the company’s long-term goals?’

– ‘How can the right candidate in this job contribute to the company’s continued success?’

Take a look at ourDefinitive Guide to Acing Your Interviewfor more ideas – we’ve got a hefty list of questions to be prepared for, questions to ask, and general interview tips!

In a perfect world, your job should impart meaning, purpose, and pleasure. In an acceptable world, your job should, at the very least, not impart dread. If you’re not getting what you need from work, consider making a change – even if the alternative is rife with unknowns. I’ve been there and come out the other side; it’s a lot brighter here.

I’d love to bring some clarity to your considerations – please don’t hesitate toget in touch!

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Everything you need to know about life after the Big 4 - Proven Recruiting (2024)

FAQs

Where do people go after leaving Big 4? ›

Internal audit is typically a less popular route, with much of the role mirroring the work that you would have carried out during your role within the Big 4. However, if you are interested in gaining international experience within your role, internal audit may be the perfect route for you.

Why are so many people leaving Big 4? ›

However, few people end up staying at the Big 4 for their entire careers. “A lot of people leave because the exit opportunities after Big 4 really are endless. You have been trained extensively, you have worked for different clients of different sizes, different locations, and different industries.

Which Big 4 is hardest to get into? ›

EY and PwC are harder to estimate. EY is the second biggest of the Big Four in terms of headcount, which lends credence to this claim in 2019 that their acceptance rate was approximately 3.5%, based on 69,000 global hires from 2,000,000 global applicants.

Is it prestigious to work at Big 4? ›

The Big 4 companies are renowned worldwide for their reputation and prestige. Each consistently rank among the best companies to work for in the world. Future employers see Big 4 experience as a major stamp of approval that you have gone through a rigorous selection process and training.

How soon is too soon to leave Big 4? ›

Whether you joined a Big 4 as a springboard for your career or were set on making partner, we generally advise professionals to make a move around three to six years of experience, in order not to leave either too early or too far into their Big 4 career.

How valuable is Big 4 experience? ›

This experience is incredibly valuable by itself and is even more valuable if you want to continue your career working in publicly traded companies. At a certain level of experience (usually manager and beyond), it can also be pretty difficult to land a job at a publicly traded company without this type of experience.

How many hours does a Big 4 partner work? ›

Busy season is typically 70-80 hours a week, quarterly reviews are 45-50 hours a week and the majority of the rest of the year is 40-45 hours a week.

Is Big 4 stressful? ›

Many accountants experience burnout at some point in their careers because of the long hours and constant high pressure of working in a Big 4 firm. It starts with struggling to cope with workplace stress.

Why does accounting pay so low? ›

Generally speaking, accounting jobs that center on compliance work will always leave many accountants feeling underpaid because they are working long hours with low-margin. A good rule of thumb is that data entry doesn't pay well. On the other hand, with advisory, the sky is the limit.

Which Big 4 is most prestigious? ›

A quick overview of the firms

PwC is the largest by revenue and the most prestigious of the Big Four with a strong and established audit client base. Deloitte is just a fraction smaller than PwC.

What is the best Big 4 to work at? ›

Deloitte, Ernst & Young (EY), KPMG, and PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) are the four of the top accounting companies to work for. They are the best choice for the individual looking for quick growth and a lucrative salary, both in one place.

Which of the Big 4 pay the best? ›

If you want to make the most money in consulting, Deloitte pays the best. However if you want to make the most money in auditing or tax PwC is likely your best bet.

What are the negatives of working in Big 4? ›

The Cons of Working for a Big 4 Firm
  • Long hours. ...
  • High pressure. ...
  • Blackout dates. ...
  • Low compensation. ...
  • Rigid promotion policies. ...
  • Self-evaluations. ...
  • Firm politics. ...
  • Traveling.

Do you have to be smart to work at Big 4? ›

Work ethic

Big 4 firms operate in a highly competitive global marketplace, offering critical advisory, tax and audit services well-known public and private companies. Their employees need to be smart and work hard.

What is the busy season in the Big 4? ›

What Is Busy Season Like at a Big Four Company? The busy season typically means long hours of auditing or tax compliance work to meet reporting deadlines for clients. Big Four employees often work much longer hours during the busy season, sometimes doubling the hours worked during the off season.

Does it look bad to leave a job after 4 months? ›

It's not terrible form to leave one job after a few months; just don't make such short stints a habit—red flags arise if this behavior seems to be chronic. Repeated job-hopping can convey an inability to assess a company or role, demonstrate a lack of focus, or raise concern around what led to your departures.

How long do people stay at KPMG? ›

On average, employees at KPMG stay with the company for 3.8 years.

What is the average tenure Big Four? ›

On average, employees at Big 4 Accounting Firm stay with the company for 6.6 years.

What GPA do the Big 4 want? ›

The Big 4 do have Minimum GPA Requirements

But they aren't the same at all schools. At some schools like Texas and BYU they are only 3.2. At other schools, the GPA requirements typically are between 3.5 and 3.7 minimum. That is because the big 4 receive tons of candidates from those other schools with really high GPAs.

Does Big 4 look good on CV? ›

It is generally acceptable to include your experience at the Big 4 on your resume, even if it was only for a short period of time. The Big 4 are well-known and highly respected firms in the business world, and having worked there can demonstrate that you have a certain level of expertise and knowledge.

Who is the youngest partner at EY? ›

Tracy Wood has become the youngest partner in Ernst & Young's history.

Do Big 4 partners get a salary? ›

Big 4 partners get paid $450,000 a year, on average.

The Big Four are the top four accounting firms known for paying their staff high salaries (i.e., PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), KPMG, Ernst & Young (EY), and Deloitte).

Do Big 4 partners make millions? ›

Big 4 Partner Salary

A large part of partner compensation is tied to equity. For reference, however, you can expect to make somewhere between $250,000 and $5 million a year. It's a lot of money but it also takes roughly 13 to 17 years to get there!

Why some many accountants are quitting? ›

One of the most common reasons is that they find the work repetitive and boring. Many accountants also find that they are not challenged enough in their work. They may also feel that they are not paid enough or that their career is not progressing as they would like it to.

How do you not burnout at Big 4? ›

How high-performers avoid Big 4 Burnout
  1. They are passionate about their work. ...
  2. They know their vulnerabilities and their breaking point. ...
  3. They prioritise and manage their time. ...
  4. They build a great team around them. ...
  5. They change locations often. ...
  6. They prioritise self-care. ...
  7. They make downtime a daily ritual and schedule time off.

How hard is it to become a partner at Big 4? ›

Yes, it's hard to become a partner at a Big Four company.

First of all, the Big Four accounting firms attract bright and ambitious people, and the competition for these positions is fierce. Most people take ten to 15 years to become a partner at a Big Four, which includes working 50 to 70 hours a week as a standard.

Can accountants make 200K? ›

You can make 200K if you enter Big 4 and stay ~10 years until you become a very experienced Sr. Manager. To make 400K you'd need to spend 15 to 20 years in Big 4 and become a partner, which is hard to do.

Why are accounting majors declining? ›

COVID-19 induced workplace shifts had an effect on almost every industry. But, for the finance and accounting profession at large, these shifts have contributed to a mass exodus of accountants.

What accounting is most in demand? ›

Top in-demand accounting jobs
  • Managerial Accountant. ...
  • Auditor. ...
  • Information Technology Accountants. ...
  • Forensic Accountants. ...
  • Financial Analysts. ...
  • Financial Controller. ...
  • Chief Financial Officer. ...
  • Money Matters.
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What is the oldest Big 4 firm? ›

Deloitte, the oldest of the big four, was founded in 1845 by William Welch Deloitte in London, England. PwC, originally known as Price Waterhouse, was founded in 1849 by Samuel Lowell Price and William Hopkins Holyland in London.

Why choose KPMG over other Big 4? ›

They compete on all service fronts with the rest of the big four and the main contributing factor to their smaller size is a result of the other mergers and acquisitions that the other firms undertook rather than quality or reputation. KPMG's purpose is to 'Inspire confidence and empower change.

Why do people work at Big 4? ›

Big 4 also provide new starters with skills that will be highly valuable by other employers, such as always pushing yourself to go the extra-mile whilst providing an outstanding quality of work and being efficient. Once on board, starters follow a challenging internal training programme.

What skills do you need to work at Big 4? ›

Let's break down the general skills.
  • Analytics (Excel and more) Most consultants will spend a lot of time analysing data, and by a lot I mean A LOT. ...
  • Sales (aka PowerPoint) Apologies to all of the budding Big 4 Partners out there. ...
  • Project Management. ...
  • Specialist Skills.
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What is the acceptance rate for EY? ›

The acceptance rate for an EY interview is around 9%, making it a highly competitive process, according to Glassdoor.

How long does it take to get a partner at Big 4? ›

How long does it take to become a Big 4 partner. Most people take 10-15 years to become a Big 4 partner. And we are talking about working 50-70 hours a week as a standard!

Does Deloitte or EY pay more? ›

Deloitte employees in the U.S. make slightly more than those at EY, earning $79,000 annually compared to $75,000, according to Management Consulted statistics.

What does an EY partner make? ›

EY Partner salary

At EY, the Partner's annual base salary is $513,000. With $48,000 additional bonuses and $54,000 profit sharing, an EY Partner can make up to $600,000 per year.

Why are Big 4 salaries so low? ›

The Big 4 is the best training grounds for individuals who want to have successful careers in the field of Accounting. Because of this, they know they can offer slightly lower than what the market may offer for the best candidates. At the same time, they also don't want the best candidates to go to the competing firms.

Is 1 year at Big 4 enough? ›

At least 1.5 years with big 4 + a CPA should be good enough. Although I guess it depends on where you live and how many alternatives you have. My friend got a 45% raise after he left big 4 with only 1.5 years of experience. At least 1.5 years with big 4 + a CPA should be good enough.

What is the competitive advantage of the Big 4? ›

The Big 4 took a different approach, combining strategic advice with implementation techniques that solve real world business problems. This ability to combine strategy with execution at scale is a key part of the Big 4's competitive advantage, says Dr Nikolova.

Is it hard to get a job with Big 4? ›

Very hard indeed. A recent article in The Time exploring the Big Four (and KPMG, especially) revealed that PwC had an acceptance rate in 2022 of approximately 2.5%, based on the 304,000 applications it received to its 7,500 roles (including 2,000 entry level ones).

When to exit Big 4 Consulting? ›

Why do consultants exit? There are usually three motivations for consultants to leave their jobs: compensation & benefits (MBB or Big Four consultants are usually offered higher-paying jobs after 2-3 years of consulting experience), work-life balance (working hours, business traveling), and personal preference.

Why do so many people leave Big 4? ›

However, few people end up staying at the Big 4 for their entire careers. “A lot of people leave because the exit opportunities after Big 4 really are endless. You have been trained extensively, you have worked for different clients of different sizes, different locations, and different industries.

How many hours a week is Big 4? ›

During the busy season (January-April) you will work whatever hours are needed to make that deadline; this usually means 60-80 hours per week so working from 9 am to 8 pm every day, even on some weekends. It is rare to have a consecutive stretch of 40 hours per week for more than a few weeks out of the year.

Should the Big Four be broken up? ›

Breaking up the Big Four is not an effective solution and only a cultural shift within the firms can resolve the issue. Breaking up the firms could even have a negative impact on the audit sector. The Big Four provide audit services for the biggest companies because they have the most resources at their disposal.

Where do people go after audit? ›

A vast majority of ex-auditors will end up in positions such as Financial Controller, Business Controller, CFO, or Group Reporting Specialist, according to Sigmond.

Where do I move after audit? ›

Well, let's look at five most common jobs that people move into post a career in Big 4:
  • Internal audit. ...
  • Risk management. ...
  • Compliance. ...
  • Financial accounting. ...
  • Management accounting.
Jul 30, 2018

How do I leave Big 4? ›

A standard resignation letter is made up of 3 sections: Notification & Last Day: Please accept this letter as formal notification of my intention to resign from my position as [job title] with [company name]. In accordance with my notice period, my desired final day will be [date of the last working day].

Is audit a dead end job? ›

Dead-end jobs such as an internal auditing position within a firm, according to CFO.com, should only be considered and accepted if an individual has a pre-calculated exit strategy so that one is not stuck permanently within a position of no opportunities.

What is the career progression after audit? ›

As an experienced external auditor, you could move into management and then become a partner or finance director. You could also set up your own accountancy practice. As an experienced internal auditor, you could move into a management role.

Who pays auditors the most? ›

Aside from executive leadership and other management roles, the best paying industry for accounting and auditing professionals is finance and insurance.

What is the highest position in auditing? ›

The first steps are an Assistant Auditor and Auditor; the next position is a Senior/Chief Auditor. Higher positions involving project management and client relationships management are Managers, Senior Managers and Directors. The top position is a Partner.

What is the hardest part of being an auditor? ›

7 Challenges Faced By Auditors In Accounting
  1. Revenue Recognition. “One of the biggest audit challenges that comes up is revenue recognition,” says Marcin Stryjecki, SEO project manager at Booksy. ...
  2. Fraud. ...
  3. Inventory Inaccuracy. ...
  4. Information Delays. ...
  5. Talent Retention & Development. ...
  6. Job Stress. ...
  7. Outdated Skills.
Jun 14, 2022

What does a career in audit look like? ›

Auditing is a complex career that involves many different job responsibilities. Some of the main ones include: Reviewing, analyzing, and evaluating processes, products, services, systems, organizations, and employees.

Is Deloitte splitting? ›

“We've looked at how we go about a separation if we were ever compelled to go down that path. You'd expect us to have done that.” Deloitte's leadership has so far decided against splitting the business, however. “It's not even a close call,” Ucuzoglu said.

How did the Big 5 become the Big 4? ›

In the late 1990s, the Big 6 became the Big 5 when Price Waterhouse merged with Coopers and Lybrand to form PricewaterhouseCoopers (later stylised as PwC). Five became four in 2001 after the insolvency of Arthur Andersen due to the firm's involvement in the Enron scandal.

When did the Big 4 become the Big 6? ›

Competition among these firms intensified, and the Big Eight became the Big Six in 1989.

How do I leave the 9 to 5 life? ›

How to transition from a 9-5 job to a new job
  1. Create a plan to leave your job. The first step of transitioning from a nine-to-five job to a new job is creating a plan. ...
  2. Set goals. ...
  3. Research alternative jobs. ...
  4. Plan your work hours and pay rate. ...
  5. Make the transition.
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