Down Fill Power: Demystifying the Misconceptions (2024)

November 18, 2017

Down Fill Power: Demystifying the Misconceptions (1)

If you go shopping for winter jackets or sleeping bags that use down insulation, you will have seen things on the tags that say “650 down fill power” or “800 FP” or maybe just the number “700”. This is a standard unit of measurement for the quality of down. Unfortunately, it is commonly misinterpreted as being the QUANTITY of down rather than the QUALITY. It is understandable why most people interpret it in this way, because we are used to things being measured by the quantity, or weight of the material. For example, Merino Wool base layers are identified by the weight of the material; e.g. The 200 base layer means that the material weighs 200g per square meter. Fleece is measured in the same way, so is the insulation in winter boots. However down fill power has nothing to do with the amount of down in a winter coat. So what does fill power mean?!

Down, like any good insulation, works by trapping the warm air that is generated by your body. Assuming all things are equal, the more air that is trapped, the warmer you will be. Since not all birds are the same, it also means that not all down is the same either. Some birds (even from the same species) produce much fluffier down than others, so the measurement of fill power helps to indicate the quality of the fluffiness or loftiness of the down.

Down Fill Power: Demystifying the Misconceptions (2)
Photo: Allied Feather & Down

Fill power literally means: the amount of space (cubic inches) that 1oz of down occupies. This is tested by placing one ounce of down into a cylinder. Then a weight is placed on top and after one minute the volume of space that the down occupies is measured, and VOILA that is the fill power! So for example, 1 oz of 800 fill power down will occupy 800 cubic inches of space, and 1 oz of 650 fill power down will occupy 650 cubic inches of space.

The more lofty the down is, the more air it traps, and the warmer it will be…BUT WAIT! That doesn't mean that all jackets with 800 fill power will be warmer than all jackets with 650 fill power! Remember, fill power is the quality of the down, not the quantity. If all jackets only ever had 1 oz of down, then yes, an 800 fill jacket would be warmer than a 650 fill, because the 800 will be loftier, and trap more air. But every model of jacket is designed with different amounts of down. Jacket manufacturers often spec the highest quality down (700-900 fill) to save weight, and use it in pieces intended as a mid-layer which will be super light, but will not be as warm as a big parka with lots of 600 fill.

Think of it in terms of coffee - For the same price you can get a gourmet shot of espresso, or an XL Timmy’s. That little espresso packs a punch though, so both are going to give you the same caffeine kick. The same is true of down. The beauty of the higher fill power lies in the fact that they can provide the same warmth with less weight.

Remember: Down Fill Power is the quality, not the quantity of the down, and not the warmth of the jacket. There are also other factors that contribute to the warmth of a winter jacket, like the fabrics, features, length and whether it is wind and/or waterproof. Keep this in mind when shopping for a new jacket and you'll be well on your way to selecting the perfect one for your needs.

Here's a great video to show how down fill power is measured:

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FAQs

Is 800 down fill warmer than 650? ›

If all else is the same, an ounce of 800-fill down will keep you warmer than an ounce of 650-fill down, and it'll compress to a smaller size, meaning you'll have an easier time stowing it in a pocket or bag.

Is 600 or 700 down fill better? ›

In plain English, higher fill power down will be fluffier, thus holding more air and taking up more space. Generally, 600-700 fill power down is considered good quality, with 700+ in the realm of high quality.

What does the fill power of down mean? ›

Fill power is a number that indicates the relative quality of down. The number comes from a lab test that measures how many cubic inches of loft one ounce of that down fill produces. Higher fill power numbers indicate greater loft and insulating efficiency.

What is the warmest fill-down jacket? ›

If you need the most insulating down jacket, the Rab Neutrino Pro is your best bet. This jacket is almost as warm as an expedition jacket but a bit less bulky. It features huge baffles and a deep drop hem for extra cold weather protection and the gnarliest winter weather.

Is 550 down fill warm enough for winter? ›

When purchasing a high quality down fill jacket, you should look for a fill power rating of at least 550. A quality jacket of this caliber will be both warmer and more comfortable.

Is 600 fill down warm enough for winter? ›

Whilst down costs more, it is a much better insulator than feathers and thus is preferred in good jackets. A 600 fill power down jacket with an 80/20 down to feather ratio will be warmer than a 600 fill power jacket with a 70/30 ratio. Why is it that down makes a better insulator than feathers?

Is 650 down fill warm enough for winter? ›

A 650 down fill jacket with 330g of down may be as warm as an 800 down fill jacket with only 120g, but the 650 fill jacket will be bigger, heavier and take up more room when stuffed in your pack.

Is 800 fill down warmer than 600? ›

HIGHER FILL POWER DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WARMER

A higher fill power number doesn't automatically mean a jacket will be warmer, as quantity is still an important factor.

Is North Face 600 warm? ›

600 fill down is warm, lightweight and durable. Ideal for general outdoor and day-to-day use.

Is down filling ethical? ›

Despite the popularity of down and feather fill, most people don't know there are many unethical practices in sourcing this fill, most notably the inhumane treatment of the animals.

Is Eddie Bauer 650 fill warm? ›

Eddie Bauer 650 downfill jackets offer an amount of warmth that is perfect for colder weather. It can be used in below-freezing temperatures with no problem.

Is 700 fill power good in a down comforter? ›

Higher fill powers (around 700) means a warmer and lighter comforter. That's because fluffier down has higher insulating power (it can trap more air), so it requires less down to fill the same space than a lower fill power down (say, 600), which needs to be heavier to get the same amount of warmth.

Why is Canada Goose so expensive? ›

High-quality materials: The parkas are made with goose down sourced from Canadian Hutterite farmers and come with a removable coyote fur-lined hood. Durable: Transit travelers loved the stitching, fabric, and perceived the coat to be highly durable. 'An investment that will last for years,' many said.

How warm is a Patagonia down sweater? ›

Rated for temperatures between -5°C and 10°C (23F – 50F), the Down Sweater's 800-fill power traceable goose down will keep you warm all through the shoulder-season. When layered, you'll find yourself rocking the Down Sweater in even lower temperatures.

Is goose down better than duck? ›

Overall, white goose down is softer and better insulated than duck down. Furthermore, goose down is the only type of down that can be used for high fill power. Higher fill power means the down can trap more air which allows for greater insulation, making it higher quality with more loft and a longer-lived down item.

Which is warmer 600 or 800 down? ›

What you want to look at is the fill power (higher numbers = more loft, more warmth:weight) as well as the amount of down that's used. For example, 10 ounces of 800 fill down is going to be much warmer and more lofty than 10 ounces of 600 fill down.

Is 800 down warmer than 600 down? ›

A higher down fill rating doesn't necessarily mean one jacket will be warmer than another. The down fill rating number is a measurement of down quality, meaning the cubic inches of loft one ounce of the specific down produces. A higher rating means less down fill is required to capture the same amount of heat.

Does higher down fill mean warmer? ›

No, the best indication of the relative warmth of down jackets is their thickness, not their fill power. If two garments are equally thick, the one with higher-fill down will contain less down to achieve approximately the same level of warmth. It will be lighter-weight and more compressible, but not necessarily warmer.

What temperature is 650 down fill good for? ›

Eddie Bauer 650 downfill jackets offer an amount of warmth that is perfect for colder weather. It can be used in below-freezing temperatures with no problem.

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