Your French Pension | RIFT (2024)

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Working in France: your pension

The pension regime in France is very different to that in the UK. If you are working in France you need to understand your French pension and also its relationship with any other pensions you may receive from past (or indeed future) employment.

This is just a very brief overview of a huge topic. It is intended to give you a general introduction to the basics. It cannot possibly cover all circ*mstances and you should undertake further research before making any decisions based on this information.

You should also be aware that the French government is trying to make major reforms to the pension regime to create a universal points-based system. The process was shelved in the face of protests and the Covid19 pandemic and at the time of writing (July 2020) we have no further information about the proposed changes.

Compulsory pension regime

It is compulsory for anyone in work to be enrolled in a pension scheme. The core French scheme is not however directly equivalent to the UK state pension as it is made up of two different parts:

  • Basic pension - régime de base this is the basic state pension based on how many trimestres (quarters) you have paid into the system.

  • Complementary pension - régime complémentaire) based on points earned related to the type of job you do and your salary.

Both of these elements are compulsory. You don’t get to choose your complementary pension scheme, there are national schemes for different jobs.

Both you and your employer make contributions to the pension scheme and these should be clearly identified on your payslip.

Private pension schemes do exist but are outside the scope of this information leaflet.

Building up a pension

Régime de base

Pension contributions are calculated in quarters or trimestres. You need to earn 150 x the minimum wage (SMIC) to account for a full trimestre of pension.

In 2020 that amounts to 150 x 10.15 so 1,522.50 euros for a trimester or 6,090 euros for the full year. The official list of the cost of buying one trimestre pension for past years can be found here1.

Calculation of your qualifying period seems to be done routinely only once a year so (as far as we can tell) if you have earned at least 600 x SMIC during the year you will get the full four trimestres even if there have been ups and downs within that year. You can’t ever earn more than four trimestres in a year.

There is a good public service animation here on trimestres2. How many trimestres you need to retire on a full pension depends on the year you were born:

How many trimestres you need to retire on a full pension depends on the year you were born:

Year of birth/ Trimestres needed for full state pension

1953-54 / 165

1955-57 / 166

1958-60 /167

1961-63 /168

1964-66 /169

1967-69 / 170

1970-72 /171

1973-172 (43 years)

You can be credited with trimestres for periods such as unemployment, maternity, accidents at work etc. These credits count towards determining whether or not you have the full complement of trimestres for someone of your age.


Calculating pension

Régime de base

A reminder again that this is a description of the current scheme which is due to change to a universal points-based scheme.

The average of your best 25 years salary whilst paying cotisations in France (capped at a maximum figure of 40,000) is used to calculate your pension.

The formula used is:

Average of best 25 years x payment rate x trimesters accrued /Trimesters required for full pension

Payment rate means the percentage of your average salary used to calculate pension. The maximum is 50%. A reduction is made for every trimestre you are short of the full complement. The minimum is 37.5%.

The basic retirement pension cannot exceed 50% of the social security ceiling (€1,714 per month in 2020). This means that the maximum pension you can get through the basic state system is just over 20k whatever your salary.

Régime complémentaire

For the mandatory occupational pension, your annual salary is converted into a certain number of points so the more points you have the more pension you get. This means that the pension amount is proportional to your earned income over your entire career in France not just the 25 best years as for the basic scheme.

There are a few different schemes and you are assigned to one depending on your occupation. Agirc-Arrco is the common one for private sector workers formed by a recentmerger of a large general scheme (Arrco) and one specifically for executives (Agirc).

For people on a low wage the state pension will be the main part of their retirement income but for people on higher salaries the occupational element will be greater.

To calculate the amount of your occupational pension, just multiply your number of points by the value of the point, which is determined each year.

Retirement age

The age of retirement in France is generally 62. You have to retire on the first day of a month.

You may be able to retire from age 60 if you have had a ‘long career’. You will need to have achieved the required number of salaried trimestres (as opposed to credit for absences from work) including at least five trimestres worked by the end of the calendar year in which you were aged 20.

There are special conditions for early retirement (from age 55) on grounds of disability3.

If you don’t have enough trimestres to retire on a full pension at 62 you can claim your pension which will be paid at a reduced rate with a percentage taken off for each missing trimestre.

Alternatively, you can continue working and paying into the state pension scheme until age 67. You can continue working after age 67 but you won’t build up any further trimestres of pension. You will however get a percentage increase on your qualifying period for every trimestre you defer claiming your pension(whether you are still working or not). Retirement is compulsory at age 70.

See below for more information about retiring if you have worked in more than one country.

Years worked elsewhere in EU

We are often asked if it is possible to transfer your UK state pension rights to France and the answer is ‘No’. The EU operates a framework of social security coordination. This is not the same as harmonisation. Each country has its own pension regime, retirement age etc. Years worked elsewhere in the EU will be taken into account in determining whether you are entitled to a pension but they will not (greatly*) affect the amount each country pays you.

*It may have some impact on the amount you are paid. France uses a formula where the payment rate is a minimum of 37.5% of your French average salary and a maximum of 50%. A reduction is made for each trimestre you are lacking to make up the full amount for your age bracket. Thus adding your trimestres from elsewhere into the calculation can increase the % of your French average salary used to derive your payment rate.

If you have worked in more than one EU country, you will claim your pension from the country where you last worked. This means if you are resident in France and have worked here, the French authorities will co-ordinate the arrangements for payment from all of the countries that owe you a pension including the UK.

In most countries you have to work a minimum number of years before you are entitled to a state pension. In the UK it is 10 years. France has a qualifying period of 15 years’ worth of contributions in order to receive a state pension. This lack of equivalence has implications for the extent towhich contributions paid in the UK can positively impact your French pension. For a table of EU countries and whether or not they meet the French equivalence test to see here4.

Years worked in any EU country will be totalled up to see if you meet the minimum e.g. if you had only worked 5 years in the UK before moving to France and working for another 35 years, the years in France will be taken into account to show that you meet the qualifying conditions and the UK will have to pay you pension for the 5 years you worked there. The UK and France will each pay your pension separately at their own rate.

Where you have worked in more than one EU country, there is quite a complicated procedure for looking at how much each country should pay you and comparing this to how much you would get if you had worked your whole EU career in that country. This comparison can help increase your pension amount in certain ways. We are not able to include any further detail here because when we say ‘it’s complicated’ that’s because it’s complicated. You can see some worked examples in the further information. Contributions from all countries are not treated equally so only those which France recognises as equivalent to its own system can have a positive impact.

To answer one frequently asked question, and avoid potential disappointment for some, it does NOT mean that your earnings are averaged out across all of your working life. Your French pension is still only based on the salary you earn in France.

Each country has its own legal retirement age and you cannot claim your pension from that country until you reach that age. In practice this means you may retire in France and claim your French state pension at 60 or 62 whilst still having to wait until you are 65 or older to receive your UK state pension. If you have worked in a number of different countries, there may be recalculation of your pension at various stages as new qualifying periods come into play. This would not normally reduce your pension from any country.

Can I continue to pay voluntary NI in the UK?

You may be employed or self-employed in France and still paying voluntary NI contributions in the UK. This is allowed for in EU law Article 14 REGULATION (EC) NO 883/20045

‘However, in respect of invalidity, old age and survivors' benefits, the person concerned may join the voluntary or optional continued insurance scheme of a Member State, even if he is compulsorily subject to the legislation of another Member State, provided that he has been subject, at some stage in his career, to the legislation of the first Member State because or as a consequence of an activity as an employed or self-employed person and if such overlapping is explicitly or implicitly allowed under the legislation of the first Member State.’

This will allow you to continue building up years towards your UK state pension (note paying voluntary NI does not offer any other benefits and cannot be used for health cover). These periods are earned in parallel. They are not ‘double counted’ in the sense that paying voluntary NI for a year when you are alsoworking in France will count as a full year towards your UK state pension and your French contributions count towards your French pension but you can’t ever accrue more than four trimestres a year towards your French pension.

Further information

This is the EU guide to State pensions abroad6.

There is a useful guide to retirement in France (in English) on the CLEISS site7 (Centre des liaisons européennes et internationales de sécurité sociale).

The CLEISS site also has detailed information (only available in French) about how your pension is calculated if you have worked in France and elsewhere in the EU8.

This leaflet ‘Pension information for expats9’ is written from the perspective of a French person working abroad but gives a good summary of the European regulations and calculation method (in French).

This site belongs to a French bank, so is not an official government source, but gives a very detailed explanation of pension calculations with worked examples of having worked in France and elsewhere in the EU.

Personalised information

There is a lot of personalised support available to help you estimate your French pension and plan for retirement. Your starting point is to log on to the official government portal10; you can create an account or log on using France Connect.

You can see a year by year breakdown of how many trimestres of French pension and how many points for the complémentaire you have already earned.

You can do a simulation and adjust the parameters based on projected retirement date, estimated increases or decreases in salary or periods of unemployment and adding in dates when you have contributed to the state pension scheme in another country.

For people in employment, your local CICAS11 (centres d’information Agirc-Arcco) offers the opportunity for a telephone or face-to-face interview with an adviser and at least once a year they run special events where you can book a short interview to review your situation (normally advertised in September for sessions in October).

As you get older, you have the right to increase levels of personalised advice and guidance about both elements of your compulsory pension. You should take the opportunity to get the information and plan ahead as you will need to request your pension at least six months before your projected retirement date.

References

The following links all point to official information sources:

  1. Official list of the cost of buying one trimestre pension for past years https://www.legislation.cnav.fr/Lists/ArticlesBareme/DispForm.aspx?ID=3479&ContentTypeId=0x01007CF8FA8574A1B64CA3888B8B205B3F58

  2. Public service animation explaining trimestres
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcjmKnXXsp4

  3. Information about early retirement for disabled people
    https://www.lassuranceretraite.fr/portail-info/sites/pub/hors-menu/annexe/salaries/age-depart-retraite/la-retraite-anticipee-des-assure.html

  4. Table of EU countries and whether or not they meet the French equivalence test
    https://www.legislation.cnav.fr/Pages/texte.aspx?Nom=circulaire_cnav_2012_26_14032012#annexe

  5. Legal basis for paying voluntary NI contributions in the UK
    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32004R0883&from=EN

  6. EU guide to State Pensions Abroad
    https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/retire-abroad/state-pensions-abroad/index_en.htm

  7. Guide to retirement in France (in English)
    https://www.cleiss.fr/docs/regimes/regime_france/an_3.html#:~:text=who%20have%20reached%20a%20minimum,no%20required%20length%20of%20employment.

  8. Information about how your pension is calculated if you have worked in France and elsewhere in the EU
    https://www.cleiss.fr/particuliers/preparer_votre_retraite883.html?fbclid=IwAR3BS-gBtWA1-xA4rCKp_m2CUEcKZGzOhpSuELSQ1BRyb_u8bZxDzefHTu4#:~:text=le%20revenu%20ou%20salaire%20annuel,apr%C3%A8s%20le%201er%20janvier%201948

  9. Pension information for expats from the perspective of a French person working abroad
    https://www.lassuranceretraite.fr/portail-info/files/live/sites/pub/files/PDF/Gip_Expat.pdf

  10. French state pension portal
    https://www.lassuranceretraite.fr/portail-info/home.html

  11. CICAS (centres d’information Agirc-Arcco) find out more about your supplementary pension
    https://www.cicas.agirc-arrco.fr/mes-outils

Disclaimer

This is one of a series of guides and information sheets produced by Remain in France Together (RIFT). RIFT is a statutory association governed by French law and managed and run by volunteers. It exists to uphold the rights of British citizens living in, or moving to, France affected by the UK withdrawal from the EU.

The information is for general guidance and does not constitute legal advice. It is offered free for personal, non-commercial use.

The main source of information to keep up-to-date with developments in citizens’ rights is our website https://www.remaininfrance.fr/

When using our printed guides, you should check the website to make sure that you have the latest version.

Originally published: July 2020.

This guide was last updated: July 2020.

Your French Pension | RIFT (2024)

FAQs

How much does a French pension get? ›

In 2022, the maximum amount of the allowance is 11,001.44 euros per year for a single person (916.78 euros per month) and 17,079.77 euros per year for a couple (1,423.31 euros per month). When a beneficiary receives other income, it is deducted from the ASPA.

Do I qualify for a French pension? ›

A worker can apply for a retirement pension on the basis of permanent incapacity for work if: They were exposed to work-related risk factors for at least 17 years. This length of exposure can have been accrued under any basic scheme in France or another European Union member State.

How do I claim my international old age French pension? ›

If you are residing in France, please contact the fund (Carsat, Cnav, or CGSS) of your place of residence to get the appropriate form, which is determined by your country. Your regional fund will then forward your application to all of the retirement pension funds in the countries in which you have entitlements.

When can I claim my French pension? ›

Keep in mind that retirees must work for at least 42 years to claim a full French state pension (40 years if born before 1952). By 2035, the requirement will rise to 43 years for those born from 1973 onwards.

Which country has the best pension? ›

Top countries with the best pensions in 2022
  • Iceland.
  • Netherlands.
  • Denmark.
  • Israel.
  • Finland.
  • Australia.
  • Norway.
  • Sweden.
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Is a France pension taxable in the US? ›

Income received from foreign pensions or annuities may be fully or partly taxable, even if you do not receive a Form 1099 or other similar document reporting the amount of the income.

How much is the average pension per month? ›

For single recipients in June 2021, the average monthly payout was $1,555, which would be $3,110 for a married couple with both parties receiving the average. Only 12 percent of men and 15 percent of single people rely on Social Security for 90 percent of their income.

Can you collect a pension and Social Security at the same time? ›

Yes. There is nothing that precludes you from getting both a pension and Social Security benefits. But there are some types of pensions that can reduce Social Security payments.

How many years of service is required for full pension? ›

6.1 Linkage Of full pension with 33 years of qualifying service shall be dispensed with. Once a Government servant has rendered the minimum qualifying service of twenty years, pension shall be paid at 50% of the emolument or average emoluments received during the last 10 months, whichever is more beneficial to him.

What happens to my old age pension if I move abroad? ›

If you move abroad before you start to take any pension income, you have two options: Stop paying into your pension and take your money at a later date – from age 55 at the earliest (this is due to change to 57 in 2028). Continue paying into your pension.

How long can I stay overseas before I lose my pension? ›

This means that if a person has a 35 year AWLR and spends longer than 26 weeks overseas, they will continue to receive the full amount of age pension that they are eligible for. There is then a 2 year waiting period until the former resident's age pension payment is portable.

Can I still claim my pension if I move abroad? ›

Personal and workplace pensions

If you're in a personal or workplace pension scheme, moving abroad shouldn't have any effect: your pension should continue to be paid in full. you're normally entitled to any rises regardless of where you live in the world.

Do Pensions ever expire? ›

Pension payments are made for the rest of your life, no matter how long you live, and can possibly continue after death with your spouse.

Can you get pension from two countries? ›

You have to apply separately to each country for any benefits that you might be eligible for.

How much will my Social Security be reduced if I have a pension? ›

We'll reduce your Social Security benefits by two-thirds of your government pension. In other words, if you get a monthly civil service pension of $600, two-thirds of that, or $400, must be deducted from your Social Security benefits.

What is the highest pension in USA? ›

The maximum benefit depends on the age you retire. For example, if you retire at full retirement age in 2023, your maximum benefit would be $3,627. However, if you retire at age 62 in 2023, your maximum benefit would be $2,572.

How much is the pension in the USA? ›

Average Retirement Income In 2021

According to U.S. Census Bureau data, the average retirement income for retirees 65 and older in the United States decreased from $48,866 in 2020 to $47,620 in 2021.

What is a good pension in the US? ›

Generally, a good retirement income is about 75% to 85% of the pre-tax income earned in your last working year. This rule-of-thumb reflects the following assumptions: you have been saving about 15% of earnings annually, you will maintain a balanced budget and you will pay less in taxes during retirement.

Will my foreign pension affect my Social Security? ›

If you are receiving a “non-covered” pension — one in which you did not pay into the U.S. Social Security system via payroll taxes — your Social Security payments may be subject to the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP), which could reduce your retirement benefits.

Can a retired American move to France? ›

Yes an American can retire in France. For visits longer than 90 days you will need to apply for a visa de séjour temporaire (a residence visa). You cannot apply while on vacation in France, you ust apply for this residency visa from your nearest French consulate in the U.S.

How are US citizens living in France taxed? ›

Americans living in France who are not considered residents for tax purposes are only taxed on income from French sources. Because France has a high income tax rate, it may make sense for you to look into applying the Foreign Tax Credit instead of the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.

Is $6000 a month a good pension? ›

And while there is no one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to how much money you will need in retirement, $6,000 a month is a good starting point. Of course, if you have other savings or sources of income, then you may not need to withdraw as much from your retirement accounts each month.

What's a good pension salary? ›

For a quick estimate, try the '50-70' rule. This suggests that you should aim for an annual income that is between 50 and 70 per cent of your working income.

What is the average Social Security check? ›

That's based on the agency's estimate that the average annual benefit was $29,806 for Social Security recipients who are age 65. The average yearly benefit for 65-year-olds in 2023 has risen to $30,708, or $2,559 a month.

Will I pay tax on my pension? ›

Do you pay tax on your pension? You pay tax on your pension if your total annual income adds up to more than your Personal Allowance.

Is Social Security better than pension? ›

Social Security pays a small death benefit, but pensions have no such feature. Some defined benefit pensions will distribute your funds to you as a lump sum. You can choose whether to take the lump sum or opt for the monthly benefit payments. You don't have this option with Social Security.

How much pension do you get after 20 years? ›

With 20 years of creditable service, you will receive a retirement benefit of 50 percent of your Final Average Salary (FAS).

Do you have to work 10 years to get pension? ›

You will usually need at least 10 qualifying years on your National Insurance record to get any new State Pension. They do not have to be 10 qualifying years in a row. This means for 10 years, at least one of the following applied to you: you worked and paid National Insurance contributions.

How much pension will I get after 20 years of service? ›

You'll need to serve 20 years or more to qualify for the lifetime monthly annuity. Your retirement benefit is determined by your years of service. It's calculated at 2.5% times your highest 36 months of basic pay.

What happens to my State Pension if I move to USA? ›

As long as you've paid enough National Insurance, you can claim your State Pension while living abroad. The main difference is that if the State Pension increases, you may not benefit from the extra amount if you're living in certain countries.

What is the easiest country to retire to? ›

Portugal has ranked as the best country to retire to in the world for four years in a row, with this year scoring a staggering 87.43 out of 100 points. In addition, the following categories scored: Housing: 74. Healthcare: 92.

What happens to my US pension if I move abroad? ›

Can I Collect Social Security if I Live Outside the U.S.? If you are a U.S. citizen and qualify for Social Security retirement, family, survivor or disability benefits, you can receive your payments while living in most other countries.

Is it cheaper to retire overseas? ›

One of the greatest benefits of retiring overseas can be the opportunity to enrich your lifestyle while dramatically reducing your cost of living. In many cases, you could decrease your monthly expenses, perhaps significantly, simply by relocating to a new country.

Do I have to declare overseas pension? ›

Travelling Overseas

If you are travelling to a country where you may have an entitlement to claim a foreign pension you are required to make a claim for that foreign pension whilst in the paying country.

What happens to my pension if I move to France? ›

If you retire to France and receive payments from a state or private pension, it may be possible to have them paid directly into your French account. Alternatively, you may decide the best option is to receive your pension payments into your foreign account (i.e. into your bank account in the UK, US, or other country).

Which countries do not tax pensions? ›

Top 9 Tax-Free Retirement Countries for Americans Abroad
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  • Costa Rica. ...
  • Portugal. ...
  • Ecuador. ...
  • Greece. ...
  • Belize. ...
  • Nicaragua. ...
  • The Philippines.

Who can inherit a pension? ›

Your pension administrator might pay a dependant's pension to: your spouse or civil partner. your child(ren), providing they are under the age of 23 and in full-time education. your child(ren), regardless of age, if they're mentally or physically impaired.

When a person dies what happens to their pension? ›

When a participant in a retirement plan dies, benefits the participant would have been entitled to are usually paid to the participant's designated beneficiary in a form provided by the terms of the plan (lump-sum distribution or an annuity).

Can I claim my deceased father's pension? ›

You need to contact the pension provider, or employer, if it's a workplace scheme, to find out how much the deceased had and how to claim that pension. If you can't find any trace of a personal or workplace pension, but you think the deceased person might have had one, the Pension Tracing Service can help you.

Do immigrants receive Social Security at age 65? ›

In certain cases, individuals who immigrate to the United States when they're age 65 or older may be entitled to draw Social Security benefits, just like any natural-born American citizen.

Can US citizens retire in Canada? ›

Moving to Canada doesn't mean you need to give up your U.S. citizenship. You can receive Social Security benefits while living in another country, but you will also likely still be subject to U.S. taxes if you earn supplemental income.

Can I get US Social Security in Canada? ›

Absence from U.S. territory

Normally, people who are not U.S. citizens may receive U.S. Social Security benefits while outside the U.S. only if they meet certain requirements. Under the agreement, however, you may receive benefits as long as you reside in Canada, regardless of your nationality.

What is the Social Security 5 year rule? ›

You must have worked and paid Social Security taxes in five of the last 10 years. • If you also get a pension from a job where you didn't pay Social Security taxes (e.g., a civil service or teacher's pension), your Social Security benefit might be reduced.

Can I take 1 2 of my spouse's Social Security? ›

If they qualify, your ex-spouse, spouse, or child may receive a monthly payment of up to one-half of your retirement benefit amount. These Social Security payments to family members will not decrease the amount of your retirement benefit.

Is Medicare taken out of pension checks? ›

Yes. In fact, if you are signed up for both Social Security and Medicare Part B — the portion of Medicare that provides standard health insurance — the Social Security Administration will automatically deduct the premium from your monthly benefit. The standard Part B premium in 2023 is $164.90 a month.

How much Social Security do you get in France? ›

CSG is 7.5% on earned income and 6.2% on replacement income; CRDS is 0.5% of earnings.

What is the average income of a French citizen? ›

Since 2000, the average annual wages in France have been increasing. In 2000, the average annual wages in France amounted to 25,606 euros.
...
Average annual wages in France from 2000 to 2021 (in current euros)
CharacteristicAverage annual wages in current euros
202037,935
201939,152
201838,454
201737,867
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How much money is needed to retire in France? ›

In 2022, the SMIC is €19,237 a year before deductions for tax and social contributions. After deductions, that works out to a monthly net income of €1,266 (about €15,200 a year). You can replace your VTLS visa with a visitor's residency permit after a year. After five years, you can apply for permanent residency.

What is the full retirement age in France? ›

Retirement age by country
CountryMenNotes
Finland65
France62 to 67Depends on the duration of contribution (minimum 43 years)
Germany65 (and 7 months)In Germany the retirement age is to be increased gradually and reach 67 years by 2029. See also: Pensions in Germany.
Greece67
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What benefits do French citizens get? ›

If you become a French citizen, you are entitled to live, work and vote in France on a permanent basis, as well as having access to all government-offered public benefits. In addition to that, French citizenship has the added bonus of entitling you to live and work in other European Union (EU) countries.

Is it cheaper to live in France than the US? ›

According to multiple indexes, including the cost of living with and without rent and the average yearly income, the cost of living is estimated to be 6% cheaper in the USA than it is in France.

What is considered rich in France? ›

A single person is considered rich in France when they earn at least €3,673 net per month, or €5,500 for a childless couple and €7,700 for a couple with two children. These figures have been set by the independent think-tank the Observatoire des inégalités.

Can Americans live full time in France? ›

Americans can live in France but they will need to obtain a residency or work permit to remain in France for more than 90 days in a 180-day period.

What is a decent pension to retire on? ›

A good pension income will be dependent on your own circ*mstances and finances but, as a guide, a good starting point would be around 2/3 of your working salary.

Do you pay tax on pension? ›

Do you pay tax on your pension? You pay tax on your pension if your total annual income adds up to more than your Personal Allowance.

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