What Happened To Elio Motors? - Villa Campestre (2024)

Remember Elio? Back in 2015 or thereabouts, the Arizona-based startup hit the auto show circuit with a two-seat three-wheel commuter car that it claimed would sell for just $6,800 (later increased to $7,450) and return 84 mpg. It was founder Paul Elio’s solution for a post-recession America that desperately needed affordable wheels.

Aside from the engine—a 0.9-liter three-cylinder engine designed by Germany’s IAV—most of the Elio’s components were off-the-shelf parts from existing suppliers, which the company said offered huge opportunities for customization. Elio even came up with an innovative financing scheme, effectively a secured credit card with the car as collateral.

For every $1 of gas purchase by an Elio owner, said owner would make a $2 car payment. The Elio was to be built at GM’s shuttered Hummer plant in Shreveport, Louisiana, where the company promised to create 1,500 new jobs. It was an intriguing concept, and Elio took some 65,000 deposits, most of which were non-refundable.

But then the inevitable happened: The mid-2016 start-of-production date was delayed again and again. Aside from a few brightly colored prototypes, most powered by three-pot Geo Metro powertrains, no cars were built and no jobs were created in Louisiana. Finally, in 2019, Elio stopped updating its website.

But just recently, the website became active again with a new announcement: The Elio will be reborn as an electric vehicle known as the Elio-E. Target price: $14,900. According to the press release, Elio’s original plan was to launch the gasoline-powered Elio-G first, then follow up with a battery-powered electric version.

This is news to us: When one of our staffers drove the Elio P4 prototype in 2015, there was no mention of an electric car.) Now, given the climate of the car business, Elio has decided to launch the electric version first, and then—maybe—the gasoline version. Something closer to the truth can probably be found in this part of the press release: ” Most of the engineering for proof of concept for the gas Elio-G can be utilized in the development of the electric Elio-E.

Elio contacted its engineering partner Roush and their assessment was that the current design could be successfully electrified. Utilizing the work already completed will significantly shorten development time versus a clean sheet of paper approach. ” Translation—our guess, at least—is that someone at Elio figured out that off-the-shelf electric motors are cheaper than bespoke gasoline engines.

Is the Elio-E really going to happen, or is the announcement just an attempt to prop up a failing startup? Elio’s stock price—which leaped as high as $50 shortly after its 2016 IPO, and spent most of 2021 falling from just over a dollar to a low of $0.30—did see a brief jump to $1.10 on the Elio-E announcement.

Alas, it’s been steadily dropping since. If the car does materialize, it already has competition: Electra Meccanica’s three-wheel, single-seat Solo that offers 100 miles of driving range. After a half-decade of fits and starts, E-M has actually delivered a few cars to customers.

We’ve driven the Solo, and those customers have our sympathy.) There’s also the Vanderhall Edison, which is huge fun, but not exactly a product with mass appeal.
Still, the Elio-E has the potential to be an interesting car.
It uses front-wheel drive, so it won’t suffer from the rear-motor Solo’s annoying tendency to jack its rear end up every time you hit the accelerator.

Plus (if we recall correctly), the Elio P4 prototype we drove was rather fun to putter about in at the sub-50-mph speeds we were allowed to hit. That said, we can’t help but think this announcement is an attempt to keep the Elio dream alive and the company afloat.

It doesn’t take a marketing genius to see that appeal for a car like this is limited, and by the time mass production happens— if it happens—we’ll likely have several automakers offering sub-$30,000, four-seat, four-wheel electrics which, unlike the Solo, Vanderhall, and Elio (which are technically autocycles), will qualify for tax incentives.

Back in the heady $7,000 Elio-G days, the company told us it’d need to build 150,000 to 200,000 cars per annum to be profitable. In other words, Elio would have to out-sell Volvo and Jaguar Land Rover right out of the gate. And that was before the company has what USA Today estimates to be $28 million of deposits on which to make good, in addition to the $7.5 million that USA Today reports Elio owes in fines over its failure to create any of the promised jobs in Louisiana We’ll keep an eye out for more Elio news, and we certainly wish the company all the best—as we do for the 65,000 hapless folks who put down deposits and never got a thing for it.

Why did Elio Motors fail?

If its website is any indication, any connection the rest of the world had to Elio Motors has now timed out. The company’s website officially 404’s now, long after its cars effectively did the same. If you’re new to the name Elio Motors, you’re not alone.

The small automaker started more than a decade ago with a supremely lofty goal: 84 mpg, three wheels, for less than $7,000.
Since 2009, not much more than a promise has ever materialized from Elio Motors or its founder, Paul Elio, despite assurances that something—anything—was just around the corner.

We reached out to Elio Motors and they replied: “The tech team is aware and working on it, thanks for the heads up though, we appreciate it. And yes, we are still here grinding every day to make the Elio a reality.” That an automotive startup flounders isn’t especially remarkable.

When it drags a town along with it, it is.
When it initially launched, Elio secured space in a former General Motors assembly plant in Shreveport, Louisiana, by promising more than 1,500 manufacturing jobs in the town by the end of 2015.
Elio paid for its lease through stock in its company—stock that’s effectively worthless now—and raised more than $100 million to build its cars.

Pre-production three-wheeler prototypes were spotted, but nothing more than show cars that showed the company could make something from more than $100 million in startup funding. Last year, the company reported a $10 million loss in the first six months, according to the Phoenix Business Journal,

Getty First blaming the economy, then blaming lower gas prices, then blaming the consistently expensive business of building cars, Elio pushed back production of its cars from 2015 to 2017 and said it needed to raise more than $300 million for production.
Pressed by local authorities and legislators, Elio never answered how he was awarded a prime sublease at the GM plant, what he planned to do with the money and tax breaks he was offered, and when his promise to workers laid off in 2012 by GM would finally pay off.

“This has not happened on the time frame we thought. There have been a lot of obstacles, but we’ve hung in there,” Elio said in 2016, according to the Shreveport Times, “We don’t give up.” Getting fined in 2017 for unlicensed sales, Elio consistently failed to provide details on its plan to do much more than sell off tooling in the GM plant it occupied,

Then, in 2018, the company announced a bizarre cryptocurrency plan and venture with Overstock.com to fund the development of the same car 8 years later. By then, the economy and gas prices had significantly changed since 2009, when Elio announced his plans, but the company maintained it would make good on its promises to Shreveport, Louisiana, and sustainability.

That predictably failed, and in 2021 the last gasp from Elio came by way of an electric version of its car, called the Elio-E, and more promises of production. “We are planning on starting production with the Elio-E to take advantage of both financial investment opportunities and consumer demand in the electric market.

Hundreds of institutional investors are looking to invest in the electric vehicle market.
After the Elio-E is funded and there is sufficient demand left, we will launch a gas version shortly thereafter,” the company wrote on its Facebook page in 2021, its most recent post,
It’s unclear what, if anything, Elio has done with the deposits and money it collected over numerous rounds of funding nor is it clear what the future will be for its cars or plant in Shreveport.

If its website is any indication, Elio’s future can be summed up in two concise and accurate words: “Not Found.” Got a tip? Send it in to [emailprotected] Update: This story has been updated with a comment from Elio.

How much did Elio Motors raise?

Elio Motors, known for its three-wheeled vehicles, went public in February 2016. The company raised nearly $17 million in funding using the StartEngine Crowdfunding platform made possible under Title IV of the 2012 Jumpstart Our Business Startups (JOBS) Act.

Who makes Elio car?

Elio Motors is a company founded by Paul Elio in 2009, to design and manufacture a three-wheeled, enclosed autocycle.

What is the top speed of the Elio Motors?

Technical Features include: –

150 Mile RangeElio Safety Management System that includes three airbags, unibody frame, Anti-Lock Braking System, and Electronic Stability ControlFront Engine / Front-Wheel DriveTop speed over 100 MPHTire Sizes: Front: 135/80 R15 / Rear: 175/65 R15 with Tire Deflation Detection System

Will Elio ever come out?

Elio Motors promised a next-gen, 84 mpg car and got millions in deposits. But where are the cars?

When Bev Hargraves first saw Elio Motors’ three-wheeled car prototype in 2013 – a tandem two-seater that promised 84 miles per gallon – he saw it as the perfect way to save money on fuel while driving to play in amateur golf tournaments.Hargraves, an insurance salesman from Little Rock, Arkansas, placed a $1,000 deposit on the Elio, which was advertised for less than $7,000.Eight years later, he still hasn’t gotten his vehicle – and he hasn’t gotten his money back, either.Hargraves, 70, says he can’t help but “wonder if it was a scam to start with” rather than just a company struggling to reach production. After securing more than 65,000 reservations totaling tens of millions of dollars, Elio Motors went silent in 2018, saying virtually nothing for three years until USA TODAY began looking into the company this summer.

Despite promising to begin vehicle production as soon as 2014, the company has repeatedly failed to get off the ground at its factory in Shreveport, Louisiana, a former General Motors property. It has never sold a single vehicle. Paul Elio poses with his three-wheel vehicle, the Elio, which he intends to build in Shreveport. Photo courtesy of Elio Motors In early September 2021, the Phoenix-based company broke its silence by announcing it was pivoting to a $15,000 electric version of its car.

Production, it said, is expected to begin in 2022. But it has not identified a viable path toward raising the hundreds of millions of dollars it says it needs to get there. At the same time, the company warned in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that there’s “substantial doubt” about its ability to stay afloat.

But Paul Elio, founder and CEO of Elio Motors, said in an interview with USA TODAY that he believes the company can still succeed. And he said Elio Motors was “upfront and bold” from the beginning that the deposits it took from customers were nonrefundable.

“I think the vast majority of folks are still rooting for us. I think the vast majority of folks realize this is not a scam,” he said on Sept.14 in his first major media interview in several years. “What we’re trying to do is hard. It really is hard. And we may or may not make it. Until we’ve made it, we haven’t.

But the thing that pisses me off is when people call it a scam like we’re not honorable. Because there’s no evidence of that, ever.” Here’s what we learned during our investigation: $1 for 3 months. : Elio Motors promised a next-gen, 84 mpg car and got millions in deposits. But where are the cars?

Is there something wrong with Elio?

Elio is not sick in Call Me by Your Name. He gets frequent nosebleeds both in the book and in the film adaptation, but this is not meant to be representative of a more significant or serious illness. It is simply something that happens often to some people and not others.

Did Oliver care about Elio?

Deborah Yaffe I think the explanation for Oliver’s choice is deliberately left ambiguous, because the story stays so intensely in Elio’s point of view. Perhaps Oliver is bisexual; perhaps he thinks a more conventional life will be easier or better for his career; perhaps he wants children; perhaps he doesn’t have the courage to try to live at the pitch of intensity that he and Elio have sustained during their weeks together; perhaps, as Alex suggests below, he doesn’t think that intensity could be sustained and would rather affirmatively choose to surrender it at its peak than see it wither over time.

What I think the (incredibly beautiful and sad) final pages of the book suggest is that he and Elio have both come to see what could only be understood in retrospect: that what they had was unique, irreplaceable, unrepeatable.
But at the same time, they’ve also come to see that this is true of much that happens to us: every choice means a road not taken in a parallel life.

Every life is like the Basilica of San Clemente, in which each new structure is built on the ruins of what came before. We are who we are in part because of what we’ve lost. (OK, now I’m going to start crying again.,) Loved this book. Alex I think they were both people who knew how fickle feelings can be. They didn’t want what was between them to ever become a sacrifice. Sacrifice was what Oliver chose when he married, a “parallel life”: one that you had to work on, secure, satisfying, not that intense and raw, but not the end of the world if it wouldn’t work out, either.

The “normal” life.
Imagine how much divided Elio and Oliver: their age, profession, experience, society expectations, the ocean.
What they had was sacred, and I think they were terrified that when the real world enters their world, they won’t be able to sustain it.
It would become dirty and worn out; perhaps it could only hold on in their little enchanted Italian ghost place, and then it’d just go away and leave a void; and perhaps it wouldn’t, and it would be impossible to live with such intensity all their lives.

At least that’s my interpretation of it. For me the conclusion of the book is that you can hardly win with desire: you can’t walk away from it but you can’t really live with it, either. Hannah My interpretation was that Oliver is a gay man, who lives his life deeply deeply in the closet. The clues are all there, the talk of wanting to be good, of trying to figure out what his relationship with Elio meant, of his dad putting him in a correctional facility and then the ultimate “I can’t”.

Without doubt Elio was the greatest love of his life but he chose a parallel life, one mandated by societal expectations, familial expectations, perhaps career expectations. So many men – people – have lived that life, especially in that time, and so many still live it now. That for me was the absolute heartbreak of this book.

I have a number of young gay friends and I am so grateful that we are now moving towards a world where they can live honestly, openly and authentically. Oliver could not. Tom Osborne This answer contains spoilers (view spoiler) Ten Thousand This story hit me like a ton of bricks, which I think is what we are all connecting to with our own personal stories. I have been playing my own story over and over again in my own head which had been usually tucked away in the attic of my brain like all the other ghosts who inhabit us.

No one has really mentioned the element of fear which affects all of our decision making. While Elio is apprehensive in the beginning and unsure of himself he has less at stake than Oliver. Oliver as we know is older and fear has a way of weighing in on us as we age. We become more aware of the consequences.

Elio and Oliver could have gone on to have a life together. Elio’s choice would have certainly been supported by his family. Elio may have been a little afraid but it is Oliver’s larger fear that prevented a life of togetherness for them. When we are young we are fearless.

Nothing is impossible. And then the world comes in in some way and often crushes and changes our heart. It is when Oliver leaves that Elio’s heart is crushed for the first time irreparably changing him forever. It wouldn’t be the same if Oliver came back; it would only work if Oliver never leaves in the first place.

Desire and passion ebb and flow. This story is interesting because it reminds us all of a universal heartache that we all experience. If the story had had a happy ending, would it be as beautiful? Yes, but perhaps not as poetic as the ending the author chose.

But why? Why couldn’t it be just a poetic with Elio and Oliver forever living together? Personally, I would like believe that the parallel version of staying together offers the rest of us hope instead of reminding of us of our own sadness.
And while the book alludes to Oliver’s future, we don’t really know Elio’s future.

Who does he become? Who does love? Does he get past Oliver so he can love another? What do you think becomes of Elio? Emme, o Fernando Certainly Oliver’s choice is deliberately left ambiguous, for we fear only Elio’s point of view. In my opinion, there are no objective reasons why the two can not be together. I explain below and then I give my interpretation: “Perhaps Oliver is bisexual” > This is a motive? (That would be another reason for them to stay together and not separate). “Perhaps he thinks a more conventional life will be easier or better for his career” > If he were a doctor or a lawyer, surely, but PHILOSOPHER? (Remember Dupond and Dupont, it makes no difference in this environment). “Perhaps he wants children”> adoption! It is clear that Oliver’s father is intolerant, but how many intolerant parents are there in the US? How many people have stopped living their lives as they want because of their parents’ point of view? People have a fallacious way of seeing the “intensity”: “it would be impossible to live with such intensity all their lives.” What’s the problem? Suppose: I can have fun for a month, but it will not be forever, so I’ll just have fun for one day and be sad for the other 29 days, That does not make any sense !!! BUT. That’s the OLIVER way of thinking? maybe !!! “there is plenty of speculation whether the relationship was truly genuine or completely one sided, especially from Oliver’s side” – I disagree with that point of view: there is in fact an intense identification between the two that remains in the memory of both even 20 years later (Oliver says: I am just like you and I remember everything). This definitely does not match a relationship one sided. I agree with “His love for Elio never faded and there are plenty of evidence in the book that says so”. It’s not just a summer love! Both Oliver and Elio are very young, none of them can be called mature yet. The book tries to convey the idea that the age difference is a huge hindrance. You do not have to be too smart to realize that small age differences among younger people are significant, but age differences among more mature people are not. There are couples in which even differences of 10 years or more become insignificant. The two become so similar to the passage of time that at the same time it is neither possible to say who is the oldest and who is the youngest. And since when is age difference hindering someone in this world? Oliver does not have to choose between two things: he could have been married while Elio was forming and the two could get back a few years later (as many gay men do! I think.), There are many cases of people who separate, marry other people and then separate and return to their true love (without waiting 20 years for this). Think about this: COR CORDIUM means that there is an unusual level of identification between two people. It is statistically very difficult to find someone like this and when this is found, there is virtually no alternative. The relationship takes on a tragic dimension: the person feels intellectually, physically and affectively so attached to the other, that any possible parallel life is not worth it. The text makes this clear, but the author wants to convince us that even so the two do not get together: which is an incoherence. We must therefore admit two (mutually exclusive) possibilities: – Or Oliver is the most absurd coward on the face of the earth; – Or the author has created a purposely incoherent story (sad stories sell more, authors and movie producers have long waited for the new “Brokeback Mountain”, and so on). The author justifies his story as an ONLY internal story (which would only involve the consciousness of Elio). What I want to say is that: perhaps there is no real reason for that story to be so sad. Unless you’d rather imagine Oliver as the first person on Earth to find your Cor Cordium and yet your heart is cold enough to spend more than 20 years ignoring the existence of that love. From my point of view, the text makes it clear that even 20 years later, the two still maintain the same level of identification as before. If it were more consistent, this could be the story of someone named Oliver who found his Cor Cordium and went to live with him in Europe, supported by Elio’s loving family (but happy stories do not sell as much as the sad ones). I would really like to know how someone who remembers details of an experience twenty years ago might not have the courage to live such a resounding love like that. It’s almost supernatural !!! I’d rather believe that they come together after Elio recounts his memories, but I’d probably be fooling myself in doing so. (Sorry for some error, English is not my native language). Marc What stood in the way of Oliver riding off into the sunset with his prize, Elio? Why would Oliver marry when Elio was in his heart, his cor cordium? Was Elio just too young to fit in Oliver’s life? Was it the times, how difficult for men trying to pair off, especially compounded by the appearance of being with someone so young.

Even Oliver admitted he would have been sent away by his parents if at 17 years Oliver had been the one to be involved with a man I question if fair to expect Oliver to entertain a scenario where he and Elio could carry on past six weeks. How lucky for Elio and Oliver that Elio’s parents behaved how they did! But the way society was back then, and the idea that Oliver already had a long time girlfriend easing in and out of his life, one might not be surprised Oliver went with the safe, traditional choice.

Perhaps the traditional family was his preference anyway. Oliver is not the first bisexual man that gave up a love like Elio in favor of traditional marriage. Perhaps he preferred women more than men or as much as men. We don’t know. We must know Oliver was in love with Elio, very much so.

Their last night together, Elio wanted to take that girl back to the room where I expect Elio wanted to have a threesome, but Oliver did not allow it.
He did not want to share those last moments with his beloved Elio.
In the beginning of the story, Elio admitted “if not later when was my shibboleth”.
I took that to mean Elio was looking back, that there could have been a “later” if only he had tried harder.

But how can a teenage boy accomplish much in that regard. Looking back, Elio seemed to recognize he lost the opportunity to at least try. But if he had somehow tried, would Oliver have acquiesced? During the Christmas following their summer together, it seemed Oliver would not. Xu Just to add that the book did mention if Oliver’s father had found out about him and Elio, he would have been carted off to a correctional facility. So I think there are also family pressure and probably different upbringing as well. This also add to the dimensions on why Oliver resisted Elio at first as well I believe. Van Le hoang His love for Elio never faded and there are plenty of evidence in the book that says so. It’s just that given the external factors, this is the best course of action for both of them at the time. Oliver is going to finish his PhD soon and is just about to get his first book published and start his career as a professor and Elio is one year away from college. St. Gerard Expectant Mothers I’m a firm believer that the Kinsey scale has fluidity and that self identification of one’s own sexuality, attraction, or gender is one up to the interpretation of the individual. The ending was ambiguous and I loved that it was speculative of what happens in the aftermath.

I know there are people that identify as heterosexual, had a hom*osexual experience, but then lead a “straight” lifestyle of marriage and children.
Whether or not they find fulfillment or happiness is questionable.
For Oliver and Elio, both did admit to being sexually attractive to both genders but never fully state they are bi, straight, or gay.

Though both men shared a deep connection, there is plenty of speculation whether the relationship was truly genuine or completely one sided, especially from Oliver’s side. Then there is societal pressure and expectation for someone to fit a hetero-normal existence due to whatever personal or religious beliefs.

Take plenty of closeted men and women who hide their sexuality from their spouses but continue to carry on affairs even after they are married. Is Oliver doing that or is he truly happy in his marriage? We really don’t know but again it’s up to the reader to decided that. Personally, I think Elio should cut his losses and move on.

Obviously, he’s putting forth all the effort into trying to reconnect with Oliver and I hate to think he’s willing to be Oliver’s sidepiece. In my head, I’m imagining him finding someone else that truly loves him and not willing to compromise himself just to keep a secretive affair. Sandra I think because he was trapped in social / family expectations. Also, he thought that his feelings for Elio would fade away and eventually remain like a sweet summer memory. Only to discover 20 years later, that he was wrong and their love was still there, alive and unique and irreplaceable. Sebastian Saliast You know, gay life in the USA has, Thank goodness, become a more joyous, celebrated experience than it was as far back to the 80s. I was the exact same age as Elio in 1983 but was a sheltered, naive, “warehoused” Catholic boy in a High School that actually had books saying how masturbation and hom*osexuality were sins and enough to condemn you to hell.

So, I kind of blindly “bought” a bill of goods that I was straight, would eventually marry, have kids and my fascination (attraction) to Jon Erik Hexum had nothing to do with being gay. Well, obviously, WRONG, lol!! Anyways, point is just that I never finally worked up the courage and the capacity to come out as a gay man til I was 26.
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At times, when I compare my experience to that of Elio it saddens me what I missed out on. Then too, it was the height of the AIDS crisis and it seemed that being gay was rewarded by becoming sick, it was frightening. This movie and book are such a beautiful, heart-wrenching insight in to the many self judgments and yes, sadly loathing many gay men face when accepting who and what they are.

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Aside from the age difference, they were from different continents. Often times now a relationship gay, bisexual, straight whatever between a 17 and 24 year old is not unheard of. With all the complexities involved in their relationship, I think Oliver and to a lesser degree Elio too knew that longevity of this relationship was like a firecracker, one whose fuse was lit so quickly but doomed to end just as quickly with the departure date of Oliver approaching so rapidly.

If Elio had fallen in love with a 24-year old summer resident who resided in Italy, the challenges involved would have been so much more realistic to navigate. In the end, I do believe their love, was the greatest love affair both will have every shared.

They were truly lucky to have found what they did even for as short a time as it was, of course the romantic in me wishes they could have braved the odds to have been a committed gay couple but the burdens were just too severe overcome. The movie is spectacular. Reading the book after was such a delight in that I was able to so much better understand Elio, what he was going thru during this six weeks.

Some refer to him as neurotic I believe that describes much of the gay population especially during their younger ages (so many of his fears and paranoia are the exact same way I felt at his age and do even sometimes to this day) and this is not a criticism just something so many do to ourselves. Lelyana’s Reviews I don’t think Oliver loved Elio enough to be with him. Oliver has a complicated love. He is bisexual, and he’s obviously obsessed with Elio. But his love/lust/obsession for Elio. didn’t make him wants to be with Elio forever. IMO, Elio is one part of his life’s episode that he, until 20 years later wouldn’t let go.

The ending itself has an open possibility of them to comeback together as they were before. But Oliver have a wife and children now, he’s like trapped in a life he didn’t really want but he has to stay, you know? I hated that Elio never moved on from Oliver, he’s still single and lonely. That made me mad to Oliver all over again.

Giving him hope and then he’s just let go? But this is a first love tastes like. What I told myself was, to understand that Elio is still young, perhaps, just perhaps, Oliver didn’t really sure if Elio would be still loving him. He’s just forgot that Elio might be young, but he’s an old soul, he’s too mature for his own age. Luke I totally agree with Fernando. Being bisexual, wanting a conventional life, wanting children, worrying about his father, or whatever else.all these seemingly reasonable explanations didn’t really seem valid to me. Was there really no way out? Look, there could have been a hundred plausible explanations for why Oliver did what he did, but at the end of the day, it all boils down to this: perhaps he didn’t love Elio enough – at least not as much as Elio loved him.

If I were in Oliver’s shoes, knowing that I’m madly in love with Elio, and that he’s the one I wanted, I would say to Elio: let me go back finish my PhD, get a job, and I’ll wait for you there.
In the meantime, finish your high school, and think about where you wanna go for college.
If you are interested, you could consider coming to the US and maybe look for a school that is not too far from where I am; that way, we could see each other regularly and continue our relationship.

But if you prefer to stay in Italy, I will try to find in job in the academia in Italy and move here, so that I can continue to be with you. They won’t need to come out to the world if they choose not to. Oliver’s father didn’t need to know about them if Oliver chooses not to come out.

And there are no rules saying that you must be married with children to be a university professor. Besides, Elio’s parents were super supportive, so these two were very fortunate compared to many others’ situations out there. The Perlmans would have welcomed him as a son-in-law with open arms. Was there risk involved? Maybe.

Or maybe not. At the end of the day, Oliver didn’t want to take that possible risk – whatever risk that may have been (career, family, societal pressure, conventional life.etc). Perhaps he wasn’t sure if one day Elio might lose interest in him? Well, to break up with someone you love ‘just in case that this someone might lose interest in you’ sounds totally incredulous to me. Gao Liu I think it was because he was a professor in New England( If I am not mistaken), and he ought to have an ordinary life other being together with a boy(who was only 17 or 18 years old), besides he had that girl friend on and off for almost two years before he decided to get married.

As for love, I think the story is a little too dramatic, I guess. I don’t think that was love in the first place, but it was just some nights of sex and some old memories of them which Elio wouldn’t let go, with which Oliver was just trying to play along. Elio loved the man twenty years ago. And this Oliver isn’t that same old Oliver any longer.

I guess Elio would have ruined all the memories if he let Oliver come back to his life. Lihsa It isn’t clear to me when this book took place-there are some pop culture references when describing music like the Thompson Twins. If it is set, as it is presented in the movie, set in the late 70s and early 80s, hom*osexuality was still considered taboo.

Very few men and women were beginning to declare themselves. Bear in mind that Ellen DeGeneres didn’t come out until the 90s and it nearly ruined her career. To be successful in society in the 70s and 80s, many men and women remained closeted and donned the cloak of marriage. Today, too many take the LGBT+ openness for granted and forget the terrible fear many hom*osexuals held and had around their desires and passions.

To me, the underpinning of the book is Oliver’s struggle to fight his desire because Elio is 1) male, 2) too young, 3) the son of his boss, 4) in defiance of Oliver’s Jewish religion, 5) stirring cultural taboos. Elio is so open with his youthful, desirous innocence. Marie Peram I have given this weeks of thought. The age difference, although not huge, still has some bearing on their relationship. For years, Elio was accustomed to having a summer student around, who was older and had more life experience. Elio was about to start his senior yr of high school.

This is a big time of maturing and trying to figure out what to do with your life. Oliver was 7 yrs his senior and after his 6 wks in Italy, he wass to return to his life back in the States. His home, his fiancee, his job, his family, etc. What hit me was, after Oliver tells Elio about his fiancee of TWO years, Elio says “You never said anything”.

Perhaps if Oliver had been honest, Elio might not have gotten involved. But I doubt it, as he was infatuated with Oliver. He was younger and less experienced Mina I think the answer to that question is much more simple than most think. In my opinion, Oliver did love Elio, just not enough to live the type of life he would have lived with Elio, a gay couple in the 80s. I think that in the end Elio was the one more in love, but Oliver preferred a typical life over him. Vasiliky Everyone in the comments tries to find an over-the-top reason for him to get married, but I’m gonna point out something obvious and maybe very wrong. What if he had a girlfriend back at home, they had broken up, he proposed at some point or maybe his family said it was time to propose and when he got back, it hit him like a ton of bricks.

The story takes place in the 80s, I think. It’s not today. hom*osexuality or any other sexual orientation other than being straight wasn’t that accepted. I don’t know, that is what I believe. When he said to Elio ‘I can’t’ that Christmas night, what if he said it because he knew that he would succumb and go back to the simmer? Time had passed since their last days together, he had accepted he was getting married.

I don’t know, that’s what I thought of when I read it Hien Tran I think Oliver thought about the future with Elio many times but he couldn’t find the way for them being together. Remember when Elio found him sitting on the rocky shore, he said that he was thinking about several things including Elio, no one else but Elio.

Besides, Oliver must had kept looking for evidences from Elio to show that they can be together but maybe he could not. Then once he decided to get married, he cannot cheat his fiancé, that the reason why he refused Elio on Christmas that year and scared of the fact that they might make love again 15 years later when they met again.

Because he knew him so well that once he did it, he could not take it back, his life and Elio life would be miserable rather than happier. I love Elio but Oliver should not be blamed for his decision, because Elio, on the other hand, never attempted to do anything to be in Oliver’s life. Welcome back. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account.

What happened with Elio and the peach?

What happens in the “Call Me by Your Name” peach scene? – One lazy, late-summer afternoon, Elio (Timothée Chalamet) goes off on his own with nothing but a peach or two to keep him company. In a moment of sudden arousal and curiosity, he plucks the pit out of a peach and,

Well, he masturbat*s with it.
And climaxes into it.
On the surface, it may seem gratuitous and unnecessary.
What, exactly, do we get from a boy f*cking a peach? As it turns out, quite a bit.
In order to understand the complexity of the moment, we first have to turn toward the novel.
And before we can even analyze the scene’s contents, we need to talk about how it ends.

Oliver finds Elio, who has fallen asleep after his tryst with the peach. Oliver (Armie Hammer) discovers what Elio has done and then he, um, he eats it. Yes. The whole thing. Elio feels a sudden impulse to cry, and he lets himself. Here’s a particularly telling passage from the book: Something that was mine was in his mouth, more his than mine now.

I don’t know what happened to me at that moment as I kept staring at him, but suddenly I had a fierce urge to cry.
And rather than fight it, as with org*sm, I simply let myself go, if only to show him something equally private about me as well.
I reached for him and muffled my sobs against his shoulder.

I was crying because no stranger had ever been so kind or gone so far for me, even Anchise, who had cut open my foot once and sucked and spat out the scorpion’s venom. I was crying because I’d never known so much gratitude and there was no other way to show it.

And I was crying for the evil thoughts I’d nursed against him this morning. And for last night as well, because, for better or worse, I’d never be able to undo it, and now was as good a time as any to show him that he was right, that this wasn’t easy, that fun and games had a way of skidding off course that if we rushed into things it was too late to step back from them now — crying because something was happening, and I had no idea what it was.

“Whatever happens between us, Elio, I just want you to know. Don’t ever say you didn’t know.” He was still chewing. In the heat of passion it would have been one thing. But this was quite another. He was taking me away with him. His words made no sense. But I knew exactly what they meant.

The peach scene marks the moment when both Elio and Oliver surrender to their feelings.
Just the night before, they had sex for the first time.
Now, they are fully opening themselves to this love and letting it seep into their skin and their bones.
This marks the point where they’re in too deep, too far to wade back out of the water.

It’s sink or swim. The moment pivots Oliver and Elio toward the end of the novel. Here, they begin their reckless, ephemeral romance in earnest. No more holding back.

What was Elio Motors IPO price?

What is the price per share? The price per share for the Elio Motors offering is $12 per share. Where can I get the full financial details on the offering?

Why was Elio crying in the car?

Why Elio cried during the peach scene: book vs movie EDIT: I meant AFTER the peach scene, when Oliver discovers what Elio has done and is about to eat the peach. in the book, it states: “I was crying because no stranger had ever been so kind or gone so far for me, even Anchise, who had cut open my foot once and sucked and spat out the scorpion’s venom.

I was crying because I’d never known so much gratitude and there was no other way to show it.” (page 149) whereas in the book, Elio cries because he is suddenly reminded of his numbered days with Oliver and he says ‘I don’t want you to go.’ Isn’t this two very different reasons as to why Elio would be crying? In the book he cries out of gratitude, being overwhelmed with love; in the movie it’s because he doesn’t want to lose Oliver.

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What engine does the Elio car have?

Clifford Atiyeh To address the most obvious question, the answer’s no. This enclosed, three-wheel motorcycle from an unheard-of brand cannot make major waves in the new-car market. But the vehicle’s founder and designer, Paul Elio, isn’t building it for the average buyer.

“We would get our ass handed to us there,” he says about competing with established automakers. Among used cars, however, “I’d think we’d play very well.” As used-car inventories swell in response to record U.S. car sales and Americans keep their older vehicles running longer, Elio thinks he’ll be able to swoop into this segment and “literally give cars away.” Call It an Autocycle The 900-cc Elio (there is no formal model name) is a single-doored, front-engine, front-wheel-drive “autocycle” that can be driven without a motorcycle license in 41 states.

It fits two people, tandem-style, and is said to weigh just over 1200 pounds. The aluminum-block three-cylinder SOHC gasoline engine is Elio’s construction, too, with all 55 horsepower and 55 lb-ft of its might routed through a five-speed Aisin manual or automatic. Clifford Atiyeh Its eight-gallon tank, at a projected 84 miles per gallon, would provide 672 miles of range. Although it’s not required, the Elio comes equipped with traction control, stability control, ABS, and three airbags. Elio is so confident about his vehicle’s safety that he plans to run it through the same battery of government crash tests as regular cars and publish the results.

The price: $6800 to start, including a stereo, cruise control, and air conditioning. He claims there are 56,000 preorders. Elio, 52, started his company in 2009 after working for automotive supplier Johnson Controls. Since then, he’s secured more than $22 million in private and public funding (Elio Motors stock is traded on a secondary market called OTCQX).

He currently employs a couple dozen people in Michigan and lives in Phoenix. The company applied for $180 million from the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program—the same Department of Energy loans that financed Fisker and VPG, both of which failed—but Elio insists he’s running entirely under his own power. Clifford Atiyeh The vehicle we inspected in Manhattan was a prototype, as was borne out when our colleagues at Road & Track drove it first and a fender came loose and ran itself under the front tire, Needless to say, we didn’t get a crack behind the steering wheel (which is sourced from the Chevrolet Camaro).

Examining it while parked, we found the prototype—without side glass and a curb weight some 800 pounds more than the production version—had extremely poor fit and finish and a rattly idle akin to that of an unmuffled, air-cooled Volkswagen Beetle. Elio has enlisted Roush to fix all of that by the time we drive a production-spec model, which is to be built by 1500 plant workers he wants to employ at the old General Motors plant in Shreveport, Louisiana.

A Free Car? Elio wants to sell vehicles directly to consumers as Tesla does, but since he’s selling a vehicle that’s technically a motorcycle, the National Automobile Dealers Association hasn’t fired any shots, at least not yet. His sales pitch, though, is several leaps beyond owning stores.

Elio imagines a customer walking in, paying nothing up front, and leaving with a vehicle and a credit card.
The customer will use the card at every fuel stop, and Elio will triple the amount to have this serve as a car payment.
The owner will be required to make minimum payments in case the vehicle’s fuel efficiency doesn’t rack up enough charges.

He wants owners of older, thirstier used cars—like this author’s 1998 Volvo—to get into a new vehicle and “let your gas savings make your payment.” “It’s hitting people over the head with the value equation,” he says. First, however, he needs to find a bank willing to underwrite it. Clifford Atiyeh Any Option, Any Time The other new idea Elio thinks will be a hit is his ordering system, which envisions a just-in-time production schedule that would ship a custom-spec vehicle the next day (250 to 300 cars a day, ramping up to 1000, says sales VP Jerome Vassallo). Clifford Atiyeh He envisions suppliers using Elio as a test bed for the newest technology and other startup entrepreneurs like himself to offer features at a fraction of the cost that traditional automakers charge. If a customer doesn’t like it, “we’ll take it off and send it back to the supplier.” When it comes to tech, Elio considers himself Wal-Mart, a “retailer” that won’t shoulder any of the costs of development or integrating the equipment into the car.

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There are too many hurdles in the auto industry, such as all the used cars Elio wants to compete against that will be even cheaper in the coming years as today’s new cars become secondhand. When Elio makes his first deliveries in the next year or two, the fundamental choice between a tiny, three-wheeled two-seater with enough trunk space for a small carry-on bag and a more practical used car like a Honda Civic won’t change. Contributing Editor Clifford Atiyeh is a reporter and photographer for Car and Driver, specializing in business, government, and litigation news. He is vice president of the New England Motor Press Association and committed to saving both manuals and old Volvos.

How fast does the Elio car go from 0 to 60?

Elio Motors three-wheel vehicle prototype Use Arrow Keys to Navigate Advertisem*nt – Continue Reading Below 1 Top speed is in excess of 100 mph, and the 0-60 mph time is under 9.6 seconds. Advertisem*nt – Continue Reading Below 2 Engineering details are still being tweaked, but Elio said the prototype will likely be powered by a 1.0-liter three-cylinder gasoline engine.

How much horsepower does a Elio motor have?

It may look like a concept car, but the 84-mpg Elio is headed for the road this year. Antuan Goodwin gained his automotive knowledge the old fashioned way, by turning wrenches in a driveway and picking up speeding tickets. From drivetrain tech and electrification to car audio installs and cabin tech, if it’s on wheels, Antuan is knowledgeable. Expertise Reviewing cars and car technology since 2008 focusing on electrification, driver assistance and infotainment Credentials

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LAS VEGAS – With an expected price of just $6,800 and a claimed 84 mpg on the highway, the Elio seems too good to be true. Showcased here at the 2015 International CES by its creator Paul Elio, this weird-looking orange vehicle takes a stripped-down approach to efficent transport.

The American-made and -engineered car is down one wheel and a whole lot of sheet metal compared with a conventional car, presenting itself as an inverted three-wheeler.
Unlike most inverted trikes that I’ve seen or driven, the Elio is a front-wheel drive vehicle.
Its 55-horsepower, three-cylinder engine lives under the narrow hood and drives the front wheels, which are hidden beneath their own individually articulated aerodynamic shrouds.

Fifty-five ponies may not sound like a lot, but the Elio weighs just 1,200 pounds – about half as much as a Mazda Miata. Occupants sit in a tandem configuration, the driver ahead of one passenger, which affords the Elio its narrow, slipstreamed body. From the driver’s seat, the Elio is controlled with a conventional steering wheel and pedals.

The passengers are protected in the event of a collision by three airbags, a steel roll cage and seat belts.
The Elio’s also got anti-lock brakes, stability control and crumple zones, just like a regular car.
A standard AM/FM stereo is augmented by a tablet mounted near the steering wheel.
The iPad runs a custom interface that is suited for use in the car and handles the navigation, infotainment and telematics functionalities.

Using a tablet makes the tech feel a bit tacked-on, but also makes it possible for Elio to offer the features its drivers may want quickly and without spending millions on infotainment R&D. Elio Motors is currently accepting reservations for the $6,800 Elio on its website,

What is the fastest auto ever?

Koenigsegg Regera – Year launched: 2019 8 /10 Koenigsegg’s appearance in this list three times shows its dedication to speed is serious. The Regera is, according to the company, designed to be a “luxury Megacar alternative” to its “traditional extreme, light-weight, race-like road cars”. The Regera uses a similar (but detuned) 5.0-litre twin-turbo V8 as Koenigsegg’s most extreme models, but this time its mated to three electric motors and a special ‘Direct Drive’ gearbox that’s lighter and more efficient than a traditional gearbox.

Best track day cars

8 /10 We wouldn’t blame you if you’d never heard of Aspark and its uniquely-named Owl hypercar. But the Japanese engineering firm has been in conception since 2014, and customer deliveries are apparently commencing soon. The second electric car in this list, the Aspark Owl is claimed to put out an astonishing 2,012PS through four electric motors – much like the Rimac Nevera, only even more powerful.

Best electric cars

The fastest production car in the world in terms of projected figures (before an official run has been made) is the Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut, with a calculated top speed target of over 310mph. In terms of actual top speed runs completed, the SSC Tuatara hit 286mph and averaged 283mph according to the company’s verified data.

It’s not a ‘car’ in a conventional sense, but the ThrustSSC is technically speaking the fastest car that’s ever been built.
The jet-powered vehicle was clocked at 763mph back in 1997, making it the first car to break the sound barrier.
Although it’s not the fastest in terms of top speed, the electric Rimac Nevera hypercar can go from 0-60mph in 1.85 seconds with a one-foot rollout and high-friction surface.

It’ll do 0-62mph from a standing start in 1.97 seconds.

What cars go 240 mph?

McLaren F1 — 240.1 MPH – Image Credit: McLaren Automotive Limited The iconic three-seater from McLaren was a revolutionary model from the brilliant mind of designer Gordon Murray. Built in 1993, it was the first carbon-fiber-bodied production car ever built, and featured a 6.1-liter V-12 from BMW that was good for 618 hp and 479 ft lbs of torque.

Who is Elio’s competitor?

3. Polaris Slingshot – The Polaris Slingshot family (European models shown) Polaris is best known for making ATVs, but the company also offer a three-wheeled autocycle similar to the Elio. The Slingshot is available in four models: S ($19,999), SL ($25,499), SLR ($28,999), and SLR LE ($30,999).

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How much is Elio?

Last week Elio Motors put a price on a 150-mile, fully electric version of its high-efficiency, three-wheeled car: $14,900. That’s a different format—and price—than the original Elio, which still hasn’t arrived 12 years after its original announcement and 9 years after its originally anticipated arrival date.

Call the company a startup only in the sense that there hasn’t yet been a product delivery. Since its 2009 inception Elio has been slowly working on the same single product—a three-wheeled vehicle powered by a gasoline engine, with the original plan to sell it for just $6,800, with a projected 84-mpg EPA-cycle fuel economy.

By later this past decade, it was supposed to cost less than $8,000 and return more than 80 mpg. Elio Motors 84 mpg 3-wheeler (Image: Elio Motors) Elio’s plan to go electric—something founder Paul Elio had repeatedly resisted over the years—was made clear in its 2020 Annual Report filed with the SEC last week, followed up with a press release. The company now says that it plans to put the gasoline model, called Elio-G, on hold in favor of the Elio-E—but that it does still plan to build the Elio-G. Elio Motors 84 mpg 3-wheeler There are two models the Elio would compete against—both three-wheelers. Aptera, reborn in Southern California last year, is seeking to bring its “never charge” solar car within the next year, at a $25,900 base price. And then there’s the ElectraMeccanica Solo, an $18,500 single-seater EV that, after some delays, is due to arrive this year with retail locations in Arizona, California, Oregon, Washington and Colorado.

Elio previously boasted that it was the first startup vehicle manufacturer in 60 years to build its own internal combustion engine—a stretch, as the company later admitted it was a modified version of the Suzuki 3-cylinder last offered in the U.S.
In the Geo Metro.
It abandoned that plan and signed on with Roush for engine supply in 2018.

It appears that the relationship with Roush might continue with the Elio-E. In the financial filing it wrote: “Elio has contacted Roush (one of Elio Motors engineering providers) and their assessment was that the current design could be electrified utilizing a significant portion of the engineering and development (including approximately $40,000,000) that has already occurred.” Elio Motors founder Paul Elio at New York Auto Show press conference, Apr 2015 Elio continues to operate despite a mind-boggling deficit. In 2020 alone it reported a loss of $18.0 million, bringing the company’s accumulated deficit to $215.8 million. The company is registered in Delaware, but its headquarters are in Phoenix, Arizona, at what is clearly stated in financial filings is “an executive suite leased on a month-to-month basis.” Elio still claims that it will assemble its vehicles at a former GM plant in Shreveport, Louisiana.

Elio’s timeline for the arrival of its product has seemingly shifted as rapidly as the horizon. It had originally been announced that production was planned for Shreveport around 2014. A first test-worthy prototype was built in 2016. By 2017, when the car still hadn’t arrived, he was promising 2019 at the earliest.

In the company’s 2019 financial filing, Elio stated that it did not expect to start delivering vehicles to customers until 2023. Elio Motors 84 mpg 3-wheeler The company has made many promises over the years and generally speaking, has failed to deliver on most of them. Elio previously promised that it would employ 1,500 American workers by 2015—something Elio again reiterated in 2019, with a pledge of 90 percent North American content.

Elio is a cautionary tale among automotive startups, even before bringing today’s long queue of electric-vehicle startup SPACs into the conversation.
It claimed to be the first equity crowdfunded company to publicly list its shares, and in the early days of trading in 2016 it blipped past a $1 billion valuation—sinking to a very small fraction of that in recent years.

In 2017, the Louisiana Motor Vehicle Commission found Elio to be operating as both a manufacturer and a dealer without a license. The commission also ordered Elio to place refundable reservations into a separate account—something the company might not have been doing until then. Elio Motors 84 mpg 3-wheeler Then in 2018, after that and continued delays, Elio sold about $2.5 million of the company’s stock to Overstock.com, to help pay off the company’s mounting debt, and revealed a cryptocurrency called ElioCoin that it said would help bring the car to market.

Elio stopped sending out regular weekly e-mail updates in November 2019, and prior to the Elio-E announcement it took down its previous blog and updates. Now it’s added a page about fleets that positions the Elio-E as a solution for the service and small delivery industry—a market that Arcimoto has gained some traction with.

That page seems to suggest relationships with Grubhub, DoorDash, Geek Squad, Amazon, and others. It’s noteworthy that Elio isn’t giving a projected arrival date for the EV. Will Elio deliver this time? This decade? Leave your comments below.

Who did Elio end up with?

– The triangle icon that indicates to play The book’s structure Before I just up and tell you how this thing ends, we need to talk about the way the book is set up. The first novel had an afterward that explained where the characters were years after the fact. This new book is woven in between those time jumps and told in three parts.

It sounds confusing, but it works.
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The first section is actually about Elio’s dad, which feels brutal to read if you only care about finding out what happened to Oliver and Elio.

It tells the story of him falling in love with a younger woman. Then the book jumps to Elio, who is living in Paris and begins dating an older man named Michel. Then, finally, we get to Oliver. His part is the shortest, and it basically describes how he no longer feels happy in his marriage.

All these parts take place at different times.
So it’s basically like three time jumps in one book, if that makes sense.
Tell me how it ends already! OKAY, sorry.
So at the very end of the book (like, with 10 pages to spare), Elio and Oliver do, in fact, end up together.
It’s written as a flash-forward, basically, and the two of them now live in the house where they spent that first summer.

It doesn’t really delve into how the reunion actually came to be, but the point is that it happened. After 20 whole years! They’re finally doing the damn thing! General thoughts re: this ending. Sony Sony But in all seriousness. Read ! And read ! They’re beautiful and good and they will make you ugly-cry. Kinda like this. Sony Senior Entertainment Editor Emma Baty is the Senior Entertainment Editor at Cosmopolitan, where she shapes TV, movie and music coverage, writes celebrity profiles, edits stories across both print and digital, and generally obsesses over all things pop culture.

Why did Elio nosebleed?

Anonymous said: Why does elio have a nose bleed He might have been feeling overwhelmed or excited, in the book he and Oliver are playing footsie under the table right before; but also considering that the parents say it happens and aren’t worried, it might have just been an opportunity to show Oliver being worried for Elio and progressing their relationship in a way.

Why does Elio always have a fly on him?

Luca has said that the flies were coincidental, because Crema has lots of flies. However, he also said that the last fly in the last scene can represent the last fly of the summer. So it’s a visual metaphor for Elio’s memory of the summer (and memory of Oliver).

Why did Elio use a peach?

The peach scene was particularly sensual and necessary because it shows a young, confused Elio still discovering and experimenting with his sexuality.

Did Oliver care about Elio?

What I think the (incredibly beautiful and sad) final pages of the book suggest is that he and Elio have both come to see what could only be understood in retrospect: that what they had was unique, irreplaceable, unrepeatable. But at the same time, they’ve also come to see that this is true of much that happens to us: every choice means a road not taken in a parallel life.

The “normal” life.
Imagine how much divided Elio and Oliver: their age, profession, experience, society expectations, the ocean.
What they had was sacred, and I think they were terrified that when the real world enters their world, they won’t be able to sustain it.
It would become dirty and worn out; perhaps it could only hold on in their little enchanted Italian ghost place, and then it’d just go away and leave a void; and perhaps it wouldn’t, and it would be impossible to live with such intensity all their lives.

Without doubt Elio was the greatest love of his life but he chose a parallel life, one mandated by societal expectations, familial expectations, perhaps career expectations.
So many men – people – have lived that life, especially in that time, and so many still live it now.
That for me was the absolute heartbreak of this book.

No one has really mentioned the element of fear which affects all of our decision making. While Elio is apprehensive in the beginning and unsure of himself he has less at stake than Oliver. Oliver as we know is older and fear has a way of weighing in on us as we age. We become more aware of the consequences.

Nothing is impossible.
And then the world comes in in some way and often crushes and changes our heart.
It is when Oliver leaves that Elio’s heart is crushed for the first time irreparably changing him forever.
It wouldn’t be the same if Oliver came back; it would only work if Oliver never leaves in the first place.

But why? Why couldn’t it be just a poetic with Elio and Oliver forever living together? Personally, I would like believe that the parallel version of staying together offers the rest of us hope instead of reminding of us of our own sadness.
And while the book alludes to Oliver’s future, we don’t really know Elio’s future.

Even Oliver admitted he would have been sent away by his parents if at 17 years Oliver had been the one to be involved with a man I question if fair to expect Oliver to entertain a scenario where he and Elio could carry on past six weeks. How lucky for Elio and Oliver that Elio’s parents behaved how they did! But the way society was back then, and the idea that Oliver already had a long time girlfriend easing in and out of his life, one might not be surprised Oliver went with the safe, traditional choice.

Their last night together, Elio wanted to take that girl back to the room where I expect Elio wanted to have a threesome, but Oliver did not allow it. He did not want to share those last moments with his beloved Elio. In the beginning of the story, Elio admitted “if not later when was my shibboleth”. I took that to mean Elio was looking back, that there could have been a “later” if only he had tried harder.

I know there are people that identify as heterosexual, had a hom*osexual experience, but then lead a “straight” lifestyle of marriage and children.
Whether or not they find fulfillment or happiness is questionable.
For Oliver and Elio, both did admit to being sexually attractive to both genders but never fully state they are bi, straight, or gay.

Take plenty of closeted men and women who hide their sexuality from their spouses but continue to carry on affairs even after they are married.
Is Oliver doing that or is he truly happy in his marriage? We really don’t know but again it’s up to the reader to decided that.
Personally, I think Elio should cut his losses and move on.

So, I kind of blindly “bought” a bill of goods that I was straight, would eventually marry, have kids and my fascination (attraction) to Jon Erik Hexum had nothing to do with being gay. Well, obviously, WRONG, lol!! Anyways, point is just that I never finally worked up the courage and the capacity to come out as a gay man til I was 26.

Aside from the age difference, they were from different continents.
Often times now a relationship gay, bisexual, straight whatever between a 17 and 24 year old is not unheard of.
With all the complexities involved in their relationship, I think Oliver and to a lesser degree Elio too knew that longevity of this relationship was like a firecracker, one whose fuse was lit so quickly but doomed to end just as quickly with the departure date of Oliver approaching so rapidly.

They were truly lucky to have found what they did even for as short a time as it was, of course the romantic in me wishes they could have braved the odds to have been a committed gay couple but the burdens were just too severe overcome. The movie is spectacular. Reading the book after was such a delight in that I was able to so much better understand Elio, what he was going thru during this six weeks.

The ending itself has an open possibility of them to comeback together as they were before. But Oliver have a wife and children now, he’s like trapped in a life he didn’t really want but he has to stay, you know? I hated that Elio never moved on from Oliver, he’s still single and lonely. That made me mad to Oliver all over again.

If I were in Oliver’s shoes, knowing that I’m madly in love with Elio, and that he’s the one I wanted, I would say to Elio: let me go back finish my PhD, get a job, and I’ll wait for you there. In the meantime, finish your high school, and think about where you wanna go for college. If you are interested, you could consider coming to the US and maybe look for a school that is not too far from where I am; that way, we could see each other regularly and continue our relationship.

And there are no rules saying that you must be married with children to be a university professor.
Besides, Elio’s parents were super supportive, so these two were very fortunate compared to many others’ situations out there.
The Perlmans would have welcomed him as a son-in-law with open arms.
Was there risk involved? Maybe.

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As for love, I think the story is a little too dramatic, I guess. I don’t think that was love in the first place, but it was just some nights of sex and some old memories of them which Elio wouldn’t let go, with which Oliver was just trying to play along. Elio loved the man twenty years ago. And this Oliver isn’t that same old Oliver any longer.

Very few men and women were beginning to declare themselves. Bear in mind that Ellen DeGeneres didn’t come out until the 90s and it nearly ruined her career. To be successful in society in the 70s and 80s, many men and women remained closeted and donned the cloak of marriage. Today, too many take the LGBT+ openness for granted and forget the terrible fear many hom*osexuals held and had around their desires and passions.

This is a big time of maturing and trying to figure out what to do with your life. Oliver was 7 yrs his senior and after his 6 wks in Italy, he wass to return to his life back in the States. His home, his fiancee, his job, his family, etc. What hit me was, after Oliver tells Elio about his fiancee of TWO years, Elio says “You never said anything”.

The story takes place in the 80s, I think. It’s not today. hom*osexuality or any other sexual orientation other than being straight wasn’t that accepted. I don’t know, that is what I believe. When he said to Elio ‘I can’t’ that Christmas night, what if he said it because he knew that he would succumb and go back to the simmer? Time had passed since their last days together, he had accepted he was getting married.

Besides, Oliver must had kept looking for evidences from Elio to show that they can be together but maybe he could not. Then once he decided to get married, he cannot cheat his fiancé, that the reason why he refused Elio on Christmas that year and scared of the fact that they might make love again 15 years later when they met again.

What happened with Elio and the peach?

well, he masturbat*s with it. And climaxes into it. On the surface, it may seem gratuitous and unnecessary. What, exactly, do we get from a boy f*cking a peach? As it turns out, quite a bit. In order to understand the complexity of the moment, we first have to turn toward the novel. And before we can even analyze the scene’s contents, we need to talk about how it ends.

I don’t know what happened to me at that moment as I kept staring at him, but suddenly I had a fierce urge to cry.
And rather than fight it, as with org*sm, I simply let myself go, if only to show him something equally private about me as well.
I reached for him and muffled my sobs against his shoulder.

And I was crying for the evil thoughts I’d nursed against him this morning.
And for last night as well, because, for better or worse, I’d never be able to undo it, and now was as good a time as any to show him that he was right, that this wasn’t easy, that fun and games had a way of skidding off course that if we rushed into things it was too late to step back from them now — crying because something was happening, and I had no idea what it was.

The peach scene marks the moment when both Elio and Oliver surrender to their feelings.
Just the night before, they had sex for the first time.
Now, they are fully opening themselves to this love and letting it seep into their skin and their bones.
This marks the point where they’re in too deep, too far to wade back out of the water.

It’s sink or swim. The moment pivots Oliver and Elio toward the end of the novel. Here, they begin their reckless, ephemeral romance in earnest. No more holding back.

Why was Elio crying in the car?

I was crying because I’d never known so much gratitude and there was no other way to show it.” (page 149) whereas in the book, Elio cries because he is suddenly reminded of his numbered days with Oliver and he says ‘I don’t want you to go.’ Isn’t this two very different reasons as to why Elio would be crying? In the book he cries out of gratitude, being overwhelmed with love; in the movie it’s because he doesn’t want to lose Oliver.

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Why was Elio mad at Oliver after they did it?

Call Me by Your Name: Veneer of Romance

Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer in Call Me by Your Name,

In ‘s Call Me by Your Name, an American grad student in his mid-twenties named Oliver (Armie Hammer) spends six weeks in northern Italy during the summer months in residence as a research assistant to an archeologist (Michael Stuhlbarg) and has a love affair with Elio Perlman (Timothée Chalamet), his host’s seventeen-year-old son.

Neither of the young men identifies himself as gay – the first object of Oliver’s amorous attentions is Chiara (Victoire Du Bois), a neighbor of the Perlmans, and before Elio cements his relationship with Oliver he loses his virginity to Chiara’s daughter Marzia (Esther Garrel).
Guadagnino and the screenwriter, James Ivory (adapting a novel by André Aciman), present their romance as a perfect confluence of physical and emotional energies at an ideal time in both their lives – especially Elio’s, since it’s his coming-of-age story – and in an ideal setting, a beautiful old villa in a picturesque town set against the magnificent landscape of Lombardy.

(Sayombhu Mukdeeprom photographed.) Elio is a great-looking kid with an air of social and intellectual privilege; he’s fluent in English, French and Italian – his mother (Amira Casar) is Italian – his family has lived all over, he’s an accomplished pianist, and he has a comfortable, bantering relationship with the teenagers of the other summer people in the town.

He walks around shirtless in shorts or swim trunks, smoking; he might be the image of the adolescent on holiday, snug in his own skin. But he holds back. He spends more time alone, reading or transcribing music, than he does with the other kids, and when they go to a club he’s the last on the dance floor.

We see him eyeballing Oliver, who’s physically expressive – in sports, at a dance, or just lying on the edge of the pool reading – and it’s clear that he both envies the older man and is somewhat resentful of how easily he fits in. Their bedrooms are next door to each other – he has to give up his own room to this American visitor – and the day Oliver shows up, he’s so jet-lagged that he plops himself down on his bed, falls asleep instantly and opts to skip dinner, and Elio is put off by his refusal to act the role of the guest who does what’s expected of him.

He thinks that Oliver’s impulsiveness and his manner are arrogant – and the fact that both his parents take to Oliver immediately and aren’t remotely bothered by his style doesn’t help.
But Oliver reaches out to him in a friendly way, and Elio loses his skepticism – which is, of course, just a resistance to his own attraction to Oliver.

Guadagnino sets up the movie skillfully, but the shift to the romance isn’t convincing – and from that point on, nothing else is either, or it wasn’t for me. The two men bike into town together and in the square Oliver hands Elio a compliment about how knowledgeable he is, and Elio rejects it, protesting that when it comes to important things he’s ignorant.

You know what I’m talking about,” he presses Oliver.
Are you saying what I think you’re saying?” Oliver replies.
I buy that a seventeen-year-old who feels a sexual attraction to a great-looking man seven years his senior is likely to be oblique about conveying what he’s feeling, but I couldn’t figure out how Oliver got the message so quickly, even though (we find out later) he felt drawn just as strongly to Elio.

This scene doesn’t scan; it feels like a clumsy effort on the part of the screenwriter to move us into the courtship. Lying in a field a few scenes later, the men flirt but Oliver pulls away from a kiss with Elio; he insists that so far they haven’t done anything to be ashamed of, and they should keep it that way.

Timothée Chalamet and Esther Garrel in Call Me by Your Name,

I thought that Guadagnino’s, with Tilda Swinton as a woman who falls for her son’s best friend, was ridiculously swoony and melodramatic, and though his next film,, had a sensational performance by Ralph Fiennes and a fine one by Swinton, I found it, too, to be pumped up.

In all three of these movies Guadagnino substitutes glossiness for drama. I could never figure out exactly what Oliver was doing for Elio’s father, and except for a lovely interlude where Mr. Perlman, on a jaunt to a nearby site with Oliver and Elio, looks at a statue of Venus submerged in the water we never get to see him engaged in any concrete way in his academic discipline, so most of this aspect of the movie feels fudged, tentative.

To be truthful I never believed for a minute that Oliver was a graduate student. More to the point, the movie’s treatment of his relationship with Elio is superficial, approximate rather than specific. The first time they sleep together, in Oliver’s room, the playfulness of the foreplay is charming, and the script accounts for Elio’s nervousness and his eagerness, but most of their subsequent scenes together amount to shots of them sleeping in each other’s arms or one of them awake looking admiringly at the other still asleep.

If I’m complaining that there isn’t enough explicit sex, it’s because the few (relatively) explicit moments tell us something about the relationship while the iconic romantic ones Guadagnino goes in for mostly tell us what kinds of Hollywood movies he likes to watch.
We’re adults; we can handle, with its detailed depiction of the sexual relationship between two women (who are approximately the same age when the movie begins as Elio and Oliver).

Call Me by Your Name, by comparison, comes across as timid. Guadagnino wants to tell us the story of this love affair, but he makes it so damn photogenic and so damn sanitized that it isn’t real. There’s very little tension between the two lovers, and none at all when, inevitably, Oliver has to go home to the States, just sadness on both their parts (and, naturally, especially on Elio’s) that the affair is over.

And Elio’s parents are so implausibly liberal that, when they figure out what’s going on, they send the two men off together for a three-day holiday before Oliver has to get on his flight. After Elio comes home heartbroken over his lover’s departure, his dad gives him a speech about the importance of holding onto your heartbreak and assures him that he’s lucky to have had such a beautiful relationship.

His gratitude (and his wife’s) for the way Oliver has enriched their son’s life is amazing. It’s also a crock. He assures Elio that Oliver, like him, is a good person, but though we have no evidence to the contrary, I wondered what Mr. Perlman was basing his assessment on.

Wouldn’t it be more likely for him to decide that the twenty-four-year-old who had opted to sleep with his teenage son is an insidious bastard – even if we’re not supposed to think so? Within the limitations of his role, Hammer does quite well; I always like watching Armie Hammer, who slips into the skin of his characters with so little fuss that it’s easy to underrate him.

(As Clyde Tolson, he was the only bright spot in Clint Eastwood’s,) But I don’t get all the excitement over Timothée Chalamet. His acting is highly competent, and he’s certainly an arresting camera subject, but there’s nothing distinctive about him – the way there was about Miles Teller in his first picture, Rabbit Hole, or about Lucas Hedges in,

Stuhlbarg has an impossible role, and I generally find him stagy anyway. But Esther Garrel does a lot with the small part of Marzia, who lets Elio have sex with her and then – for reasons she can’t understand – finds herself dealing with a young woman’s most clichéd sorrow: that she has given herself to a boy she has feelings for and he drops her the very next day.

In her scenes with Chalamet, I found myself watching her, not him. When Elio returns from his trip with Oliver, Marzia tells him that she’s not angry with him for the way he treated her and that she wants to remain friends. The scene, too, pretties up the story, but Garrel brings it a trace of humanity that makes it more touching than any interaction between the two men.

Without a doubt I prefer Call Me by Your Name to the other recent movie about a gay romance, God’s Own Country, a kitchen-sink English drama that makes a virtue out of the ugliness of the two men’s grimy work on a Yorkshire sheep farm and can’t even shoot them having sex without throwing in some mud.

I watched the whole lousy picture, but I felt like throwing in the towel when the protagonist kicked a dead calf in close-up – this is the kind of rub-your-nose-in-it “realism” that makes it obvious that the director hasn’t a clue what he’s doing. The movie would have been better off focusing on convincing us how this semi-Neanderthal could end up with the rather elegant Romanian émigré who comes to work on his daddy’s farm.

I guess I’m bourgeois enough to want to watch an airbrushed item like Call Me by My Name instead of something like God’s Own Country ; at least I didn’t feel by the end as if I’d been punished.
The title of Guadagnino’s film, by the way, is a reference to Oliver’s idea that he and Elio should call address each other by each other’s name when they’re alone.

It’s a sort of private language – and it feels like one more romantic affectation. Addendum : At the urging of a friend, I read André Aciman’s novel and wished I’d had the foresight to do so before seeing the picture. It’s an absolute knockout – perhaps the finest sexual coming-of-age story this side of Sons and Lovers,

Aciman’s prose doesn’t soar like D.H.
Lawrence’s, but he shares Lawrence’s bracing honesty about sex, about both the way it’s inseparable from romantic obsession and the way it can act, intermittently, like a tonic for that obsession.
In the book, the morning after Elio sleeps with Oliver for the first time, he wakes up with feelings of revulsion and anger because the remnants of their lovemaking are sordid and uncomfortable and a sour reminder that he’s no longer the boy he was the day before.

I can’t think of a passage about morning-after regret that’s quite like this one. Aciman’s chronicle of the sexual relationship between Elio and Oliver is dense with precisely what I complained is in such short supply in the movie; you get the emotions of both men through the physical acts and through their response to them.

The book is entirely in Elio’s point of view (the movie is not), and even when his behavior is exactly the same as it is in the movie, it makes much more sense because we understand what’s going on in his head to motivate it.
The movie tells us more about what Oliver is feeling – his trepidation about letting himself fall into bed with this teenager, however much Elio seems to be coming on to him, and his anxiety the next day that he’s done something they’ll both be sorry for.

Mostly that’s because Armie Hammer is much more expressive as an actor than Timothée Chalamet, who relies on acting tropes that operate like awkward metaphors for Elio’s emotions – roaming around the square or Oliver’s room, looking away pointedly, smiling cryptically, bouncing up against Oliver like a little boy who doesn’t know what to do with his physical energy.

But Ivory’s adaptation mostly gives Chalamet unmoored excerpts from the novel to play, and you can hardly blame a twenty-one-year-old novice actor for not knowing how to fill in what the script leaves out.
Aciman writes about a love affair that haunts both men for the rest of their lives because they find themselves through each other; that’s what the title is all about, and it’s the meaning, too, of the powerful scene where Oliver insists on taking a bite of a peach that Elio, alone in his room, has masturbat*d into.

This scene has some pungency in the movie, too, but mostly as an expression of Elio’s sexual curiosity and sense of adventure. When Oliver walks into the room, Ivory and Guadagnino short-circuit what follows and then turn it into a scene about Elio weeping in his lover’s arms because he doesn’t want him to leave Italy and bring their romance to an end.

Without having read the book, and since Guadagnino interrupts the gesture, I had to guess what it meant when Oliver picked up the peach. My guess was he was performing a sexual act that required excessiveness, almost masochism, to make its point – like Brando in Last Tango in Paris demanding that Maria Schneider shove her fingers up his ass, except that in this case the act was more obviously one of devotion.

(Brando’s giving himself up to Schneider is equal parts devotion and cynicism.) I was half right: in Aciman’s version it’s devotion, yes, but also self-definition – he’s saying to Elio, in a way, “What’s yours is mine.” One of the most extraordinary sections in the book is a long description of the first night Oliver and Elio spend in Rome together, which involves music and poetry and alcohol and a great many other characters who help to make it the best night of the boy’s life.

What the movie comes up with instead isn’t much better than those generalized romantic montages we’ve seen in hundreds of movies.
No wonder we can’t comprehend what the hell is going on between these two.
Guadagnino ends his movie with a phone call, months after the two men part ways, in which Oliver announces that he’s going to be married.

Aciman goes much farther: in the last fifteen pages we leap forward in time once, twice, three times. These last pages are as much about time, its cruel thefts as well as its mysterious gifts, as they are about an indelible love affair. The novel moves into your imagination; the movie, by comparison, is a pretty blank.

When I closed the book, finally, around midnight, I was crying, and sleep was out of the question. – is Distinguished Professor of the Arts and Humanities at College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, where he teaches theatre and film. He also writes for The Threepenny Review and is the author of three books: Method Actors: Three Generations of an American Acting Style ; No Surprises, Please: Movies in the Reagan Decade ; and High Comedy in American Movies,

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