Should You Dump Pimco Total Return? (2024)

Bill Gross' Pimco Total Return regularly outperforms its peers, but if you still hold it, you might want to sell.

Consider this: From the fund's inception in mid 1987 through May 23, it has returned an annualized 8.4%. That's an average of 1.1 percentage points per year better than its benchmark, Barclays Capital U.S. Aggregate Bond index.

Recent performance is even more remarkable. Over the past five years, Total Return (symbol PTTRX (opens in new tab)) returned an annualized 8.8%, beating the Barclays index by an average of 2.3 points per year and outperforming 97% of its peers (medium-maturity taxable bond funds). In the bond world, where performance is measured in basis points (a basis point is one one-hundredth of a percent), this kind of outperformance is stunning. (The numbers above are for Total Return's low-fee, high-minimum institutional shares, the class with the longest history.)

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What's more, Gross has continued to put up great numbers even as Total Return's assets have swelled to $241 billion, making it the world's biggest mutual fund (the figure includes all share classes).Total Return is now bigger than some of the bond-market niches it invests in. Its size is almost triple the $85 billion the fund held in mid 2005 and nearly double the $132 billion it held at the start of 2009.

In addition, another $243 billion resides in more than 65 public and private Pimco-managed funds, including Harbor Bond (HABDX (opens in new tab)), a member of the Kiplinger 25, that are virtually identical to Total Return. So Pimco is managing nearly $500 billion with one strategy. And now the company is getting ready to launch an exchange-traded version of Total Return.

I don't worry as much about asset bloat as some other fund analysts do. But enough is enough. If you hold Pimco Total Return, sell it. If you don't, but you want to own a solid bond fund, look for something else.

My hunch is that Gross will still be able to beat the market. But I think it will be by ever smaller amounts. It doesn't help that Total Return charges too much in light of its size. In particular, the annual expense ratio of 0.75% for Pimco Total Return D (PTTDX (opens in new tab)), the share class that's available without a load through many discount brokers, imposes a large hurdle for Gross and his team to overcome. The fee is way too high. Harbor Bond charges an annual fee of 0.55% (the expense ratio for the institutional class of Pimco Total Return is 0.46%, but the minimum investment is $1 million).

Previously, Gross had two ways to win: through his firm's uncanny big-picture predictions and via its skills at identifying undervalued bonds. In the future, it will be as if Gross is flying without that second engine. The fund is simply too big for individual bond picks to make a difference. Plus, with the fund so big, the natural tendency is to play not to lose. After all, if you give investors decent performance, they probably won't bail out, even if they can do better elsewhere.

Total Return Replacements

As his firm's assets have mushroomed, Gross, who founded Pimco in 1971 and is now its co-chief investing officer, has hired a lot of smart people. Among them: Mohamed El-Erian, the other co-chief investing officer; Mark Kiesel; Curtis Mewbourne; Michael Gomez; and Chris Dialynas. With all that brain power available, it's safe to say that Pimco still has some pretty good funds. Below are some of my favorites as candidates to replace Total Return in your portfolio:

Pimco Unconstrained D (PUBDX (opens in new tab)) is a smaller and more daring version of Total Return. While Total Return will only deviate so much from its benchmark index, Unconstrained gives you the full expression of Pimco's views. The fund, which launched in 2008, can even try to make money on falling bond prices.

Pimco Emerging Local Bond D (PLBDX (opens in new tab)) invests in bonds and currencies of emerging nations, many of which are growing rapidly and are in better fiscal shape than most countries in the developed world. This fund is as risky as many stock funds, but it returned a stock-like 9.5% annualized over the past three years through May 23.

Pimco Diversified Income (PDVDX (opens in new tab)) is a multi-sector bond fund. It invests in global bonds as well as investment-grade and high-yielding "junk" corporate bonds. It currently has about 40% of its assets in emerging-markets bonds. It gained 9.3% annualized over the past three years.

You can, of course, find superb bond funds run by other shops. I recently wrote about Loomis Sayles Bond (LSBRX (opens in new tab)) -- see Sell Commodities -- Even Now -- so I don't need to say much about it here. It's an aggressive multi-sector fund, but it has put up terrific numbers. Its three-year annualized return: 8.1%

A fund with no record to speak of but one worth considering nonetheless is DoubleLine Total Return Bond (DBLTX (opens in new tab)). Lead manager Jeffrey Gundlach has been investing primarily in mortgage securities since 1993. He posted a stellar record with TCW Total Return Bond (TGLMX (opens in new tab)) before he was fired in late 2009 in an acrimonious dispute that is still being fought out in the courts. Gundlach launched his new fund last year, and most of the analysts who worked with him at TCW joined his new firm. The fund returned an eye-popping 15.2% over the past 12 months.

Steven T. Goldberg (bio (opens in new tab)) is an investment adviser in the Washington, D.C. area.

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Should You Dump Pimco Total Return? (2024)

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Should You Dump Pimco Total Return? ›

Bill Gross is arguably the best bond-fund manager on the planet. But his fund is much too big, and you can find a lot of better alternatives. Bill Gross' Pimco Total Return regularly outperforms its peers, but if you still hold it, you might want to sell.

Is PIMCO Real return fund a good investment? ›

A high quality inflation hedge

Active management has helped the fund deliver short- and long-term returns solidly ahead of inflation, while the portfolio's investment-grade orientation has provided a smoother ride than other real return assets such as commodities and real estate.

Are PIMCO funds safe? ›

An investment in the PIMCO Government Money Market Fund is not insured nor guaranteed by the FDIC or any other government agency. Although the Fund seeks to preserve the value of your investment at $1.00 per share, it is possible to lose money by investing in the Fund.

What is the rating of PIMCO Total Return Fund? ›

Trailing Total Returns Monthly
1-Month1-Year
Category (PI)-1.03-2.28
+/- Bloomberg US Agg Bond TR USD0.1-0.83
+/- Category (PI)0.04-0.69
Rank in Category2975
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Why is PIMCO losing money? ›

California-based PIMCO lost out on a specific type of bond, an Additional Tier 1 (AT1) bond. Swiss regulators made the decision on Sunday to wipe out $17 billion-worth of AT1 debt in order to allow the Credit Suisse and UBS merger to go through. Usually, bondholders rank above shareholders when a bank goes bust.

What is the highest return safe investment? ›

  1. 9 Safe Investments With High Returns. Here are the nine best safe investments with high returns: ...
  2. High-Yield Savings Accounts. ...
  3. Certificates of Deposit. ...
  4. Money Market Accounts. ...
  5. Treasury Bonds. ...
  6. Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities. ...
  7. Municipal Bonds. ...
  8. Corporate Bonds.
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What real estate investment has highest ROI? ›

Traditional Rental Properties

Long-term rental properties yield a high return on investment and are, therefore, very popular amongst real estate investors. Return on investment (ROI) of your properties can be measured using the cap rate or cash on cash calculation metrics.

What is the most popular PIMCO fund? ›

Below we share with you three top-ranked PIMCO mutual funds, viz., PIMCO High Yield Municipal Bond Fund Class A PYMAX, PIMCO RAE US Small Fund Class A PMJAX and PIMCO Fixed Income SHares: Series M FXIMX. Each has earned a Zacks Mutual Fund Rank #1 (Strong Buy) and is expected to outperform its peers in the future.

Does PIMCO pay dividends monthly? ›

Daily Accrual Dividends: Dividends are declared daily to that day's "settled" shareowners of record for the amount of net investment income earned that day. The payment of these dividends is on the last business day of the month.

Is PIMCO still owned by Allianz? ›

In 2000, PIMCO was acquired by Allianz SE, a large global financial services company based in Munich, Germany, but the firm continues to operate as an autonomous subsidiary of Allianz.

What is a good total return on investment? ›

According to conventional wisdom, an annual ROI of approximately 7% or greater is considered a good ROI for an investment in stocks. This is also about the average annual return of the S&P 500, accounting for inflation. Because this is an average, some years your return may be higher; some years they may be lower.

Does PIMCO have a good reputation? ›

People Also Ask about PIMCO

Employees rate PIMCO 3.7 out of 5 stars based on 653 anonymous reviews on Glassdoor.

What is Vanguard's average rate of return? ›

Benchmark Returns
BenchmarkReturns as of 07/31/2023Average Annual Total Returns as of 07/31/2023
1 Month1 Year
Balanced Composite Index2.11%6.45%
Bloomberg 1 Year Municipal Index0.22%0.92%
Bloomberg 1-15 Year Municipal Index0.39%0.93%
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What is the market outlook for PIMCO in 2023? ›

We expect a yield range of about 3.25% to 4.25% for the 10-year U.S. Treasury in our baseline, and broader ranges across scenarios for 2023, with a view of being neutral on duration – a gauge of interest rate risk – or having a tactical underweight position at current levels.

What is the dividend payout for PIMCO? ›

Historical dividend payout and yield for PIMCO High Income Fund (PHK) since 2005. The current TTM dividend payout for PIMCO High Income Fund (PHK) as of August 11, 2023 is $0.58. The current dividend yield for PIMCO High Income Fund as of August 11, 2023 is 11.50%.

Is Pimco Total Return a bond fund? ›

Backed by the breadth and depth of PIMCO's global resources and actively managed with a risk-focused approach by three industry-renowned portfolio managers, PIMCO Total Return Fund is a true core bond holding made up of high-quality, intermediate-term bonds that can serve as a portfolio anchor no matter which way the ...

Which PIMCO fund is the best? ›

Below we share with you three top-ranked PIMCO mutual funds, viz., PIMCO High Yield Municipal Bond Fund Class A PYMAX, PIMCO RAE US Small Fund Class A PMJAX and PIMCO Fixed Income SHares: Series M FXIMX. Each has earned a Zacks Mutual Fund Rank #1 (Strong Buy) and is expected to outperform its peers in the future.

What is a good real return on investment? ›

A good return on investment is generally considered to be about 7% per year, based on the average historic return of the S&P 500 index, and adjusting for inflation.

What is PIMCO commodity real return strategy? ›

The Fund seeks to achieve its investment objective by investing under normal circ*mstances in commodity-linked derivative instruments backed by a portfolio of inflation-indexed securities and other Fixed Income Instruments.

What is the most successful investment fund? ›

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