Person Maliciously Complies With HOA Rules, Ends Up Costing Them 16% Of The HOA Income (2024)

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While some think property ownership is the best way to escape nosy landlords, people in certain parts of the world will then encounter the dreaded beast that is a Homeowners Association. Armed with zeal and a possibly misguided sense of power, these groups will try to impose their will on all residents, for better or worse.

One internet user shared their story of malicious compliance when the HOA tried to force them to take down security cameras. In a bid of commendable stubbornness, they fought for their cameras tooth and nail, adding a pile of legal fees onto the HOA. And in the end, they got around the association’s ruling with a clever technicality.

Security cameras in a neighborhood can be contentious since they might record more than just your yard and property

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A homeowner installed cameras on their house, which happened to overlook parts of two neighbors’ property

Despite a feature to gray out a section of the feed, one neighbor wanted the cameras taken down

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Person Maliciously Complies With HOA Rules, Ends Up Costing Them 16% Of The HOA Income (2)

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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You have an expectation to privacy. What does that mean? If any passerby can see it…it’s not private. Popular opinion or not, it’s how most (U.S.) laws are written. It also means cameras can’t be pointed into your home (if you cover windows) or into your backyard (if you have a privacy fence). If a passerby can’t see it…it’s private…so, a camera shouldn’t see it either. Most neighbors aren’t using cameras to spy on you, but to protect their own home & family. The “grayed out areas” the OP is referring to is called a privacy zone or a privacy screen. Any reasonable neighbor should be fine with setting this up & sharing footage with you (anytime you request it). But your neighbor’s cameras might actually help you out someday. Our driveway camera captured some teens who intentionally set our across-the-street neighbor’s privacy fence & roof on fire with some fireworks. They were grateful. FYI, our camera only “sees” the exterior fence & roof line of our neighbor’s house & nothing private.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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Finally someone with comon sense.

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Here comes what'll be an unpopular opinion:Unless you have a privacy fence, your yard is not private.No, neighbors shouldn't be recording you using your back yard. However, I think some people are a bit naive with their "expectation of privacy."

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Feelings for some reason pass the facts like they don't matter. This is what happens when a population of citizens with rights and that population doesn't understand their rights. They willingly allow those rights to be waived. Every citizen of the USA should know their rights, the Constitution, and what it's for, who it's for and why it matters. If even 60% of today's population understood this our country would be completely different. I started teaching my kids in elementary school it matters, and the comments in this post prove it.

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I'd say attempting to prevent filming neighbors yards is important. It would be interesting to see if that were possible in this case (it may not have been possible to get the vehicles but not a portion of the neighbor's yards). If they were transparent about it and had obviously minimized the best they could, to me that's city living. My doorbell cam gets anyone who parks on the street in front of us (although we were able to tip it to avoid homes across the street).

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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You have an expectation to privacy. What does that mean? If any passerby can see it…it’s not private. Popular opinion or not, it’s how most (U.S.) laws are written. It also means cameras can’t be pointed into your home (if you cover windows) or into your backyard (if you have a privacy fence). If a passerby can’t see it…it’s private…so, a camera shouldn’t see it either. Most neighbors aren’t using cameras to spy on you, but to protect their own home & family. The “grayed out areas” the OP is referring to is called a privacy zone or a privacy screen. Any reasonable neighbor should be fine with setting this up & sharing footage with you (anytime you request it). But your neighbor’s cameras might actually help you out someday. Our driveway camera captured some teens who intentionally set our across-the-street neighbor’s privacy fence & roof on fire with some fireworks. They were grateful. FYI, our camera only “sees” the exterior fence & roof line of our neighbor’s house & nothing private.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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Here comes what'll be an unpopular opinion:Unless you have a privacy fence, your yard is not private.No, neighbors shouldn't be recording you using your back yard. However, I think some people are a bit naive with their "expectation of privacy."

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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Feelings for some reason pass the facts like they don't matter. This is what happens when a population of citizens with rights and that population doesn't understand their rights. They willingly allow those rights to be waived. Every citizen of the USA should know their rights, the Constitution, and what it's for, who it's for and why it matters. If even 60% of today's population understood this our country would be completely different. I started teaching my kids in elementary school it matters, and the comments in this post prove it.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017
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I'd say attempting to prevent filming neighbors yards is important. It would be interesting to see if that were possible in this case (it may not have been possible to get the vehicles but not a portion of the neighbor's yards). If they were transparent about it and had obviously minimized the best they could, to me that's city living. My doorbell cam gets anyone who parks on the street in front of us (although we were able to tip it to avoid homes across the street).

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