Moving away from Edward Jones to Vanguard (2024)

Since the markets are at all time highs and therefore your portfolio of individual stocks and mutual funds are probably at an all time high, I'd liquidate everything at EJ and just move the cash into a Vanguard IRA (forget about moving to a 401K). Then, you need to figure out your ratio of stocks/bonds. This is the most important thing to determining your long term returns on this money.

Vanguard has a nice Portfolio Tester tool (link is on the Portfolio Watch page). This tester tool will show you the allocation (percentages) between stocks/bonds of the ETFs and Funds you think you might want to move the funds in the account into. It will recommend target percentages for the various asset classes.

About 5 years ago, I moved my parents' >$1M taxable portfolio from Wells Fargo Advisors to Vanguard. I put them into a selection mutual funds with an 85% stocks/15% bonds ratio. I also went with the Vanguard recommendation of 20% of the 85% stocks going into International stocks. Since then, Vanguard is recommending even higher percentages for international stocks.

Of the 15% bonds, the return has been very little (around 2% a year). The international stocks have done even worse (with emerging markets fund having lost money over the 5 years).

The Portfolio Watch page indicated when I bought the index funds, that the historic return for my parents portfolio was 9.7% a year. I just checked and the performance since inception has been 9.6% a year. I opened a Vanguard IRA around the same time (actually 6 years ago) and it only has the S&P500 fund. That account with the single index fund has returned a little over 14% a year ($157,067.24 invested, now worth $362,609.34 as of yesterday).

If I were to do it over again, I would do the Buffet allocation for the 90% stocks/10% short term bonds and put the stocks into either the S&P500 fund or the Total Stock Market fund. I would also probably use ETFs instead of Mutual Funds, but my parents have not sold anything so it probably doesn't matter. Their account is now >$2M and they have withdrawn the dividends and capital gains to supplement their retirement funds and other income. I also wouldn't worry about international, but that is just me. I bought into Vanguard's advice that we needed the diversification but Vanguard has changed their recommendations over the years which doesn't make too much sense to me. They didn't recommend international until they had a fund to sell you. Vanguard also recommends higher bonds, but the bond market is clearly in a low interest to rising interest rate environment and is unlikely to return much over the coming years.

Anyway, sorry for the long story. My main advice is to liquidate the EJ account asap, move the money into a few Vanguard index funds/ETFs that meet your target portfolio allocation and then just forget about it (it is an IRA, after all).

Moving away from Edward Jones to Vanguard (2024)

FAQs

Is Vanguard better than Edward Jones? ›

assuming no risk whatsoever. Just buying a target retirement date fund through vanguard and never looking at it again would probably be a better strategy than using Edward Jones if simplicity, diversity and low fees are your goals.

Can you transfer an IRA from Edward Jones to Vanguard? ›

You can transfer your IRA or non-retirement account held at another investment firm to an account at Vanguard using our simple and clear online process.

Why not to invest with Edward Jones? ›

Edward Jones fees are tiered, so they decrease as your account grows in value. Still, a 1.35% fee is high, even compared to other financial advisory firms. These fees are especially high considering most people can create similar portfolios with a little bit of research and a desire to learn more about investing.

Is it better to invest with Vanguard directly? ›

If you buy directly through Vanguard, you may benefit from lower fees, better customer service, and additional product research. Buying a Vanguard fund through a broker may involve commissions, loads, or other charges that are imposed by the broker, and not Vanguard directly—although this is not always the case.

Why is Vanguard so popular? ›

Since its founding in 1975 by John C. Bogle, Vanguard Brokerage has become synonymous with low-cost investing. 2 From the onset, Vanguard was built to serve buy-and-hold investors with a long-term philosophy. It was not and has never been, designed for frequent traders or short-term investors.

Is there a penalty for withdrawing from Edward Jones account? ›

In general, a 10% early withdrawal penalty applies if you take money before age 59½. When will I need to start taking money out?

Does Edward Jones charge a transfer out fee? ›

4 Beginning May 1, 2019, at the time of total transfer or termination of an account we will waive the total transfer or termination fee and the annual individual retirement account fee, if due but unpaid, for accounts that meet the following criteria: (1) the account must be open for at least 24 months prior to the ...

Can I move my IRA from Edward Jones? ›

Yes, you can transfer your IRA to another provider at any time without tax consequences or tax reporting as long as the assets move directly from your current IRA provider to your new IRA provider.

Does Vanguard charge fees for IRA? ›

The annual fee for a Vanguard Roth IRA is $20. However, you can easily avoid this fee by opting in to electronic statements and notifications instead of having Vanguard send you everything in the mail. You can also avoid the fee by having at least $1 million in qualifying assets at Vanguard.

Why is everyone leaving Edward Jones? ›

The common ground is that they all want more control—over how they are compensated, how they service clients and how they live their business lives.

Why do advisors leave Edward Jones? ›

Edward Jones advisors and their culture are known for a specific setup, a specific type of trainee, and a small town emphasis. As the industry continues to adjust (most importantly adjusting to include bigger and bigger teams) the Edward Jones model is seen as outdated by some of their larger producers.

Is Edward Jones in financial trouble? ›

On the surface, the figures seem to indicate an impressive comeback for Edward Jones, which had been rapidly losing both profits and advisors in recent years. In 2021, the firm — which operates in both the U.S. and Canada — suffered a net loss in its U.S. advisor headcount for the first time in a decade.

What are the cons of Vanguard? ›

Cons
  • Relatively high minimum investment requirements for many fund options.
  • Higher-than-average per-contract options fee.
  • Slow process to open an account.
  • No trading platform for active traders.
  • No fractional shares of stocks or ETFs.
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Is it safe to keep all my money in Vanguard? ›

Rest easy knowing the cash in your Vanguard Cash Plus bank sweep is eligible for FDIC coverage up to $1.25 million for individual accounts and $2.5 million for joint accounts. You can keep all your money in the bank sweep or diversify into 5 available Vanguard money market funds (each with a $3,000 minimum investment).

What would happen if Vanguard went bust? ›

The securities that underlie the funds are held by a custodian, not by Vanguard. Vanguard is paid by the funds to provide administration and other services. If Vanguard ever did go bankrupt, the funds would not be affected and would simply hire another firm to provide these services.

Who is Edward Jones biggest competitor? ›

Edward Jones competitors
  • Principal. ...
  • Bank of America. ...
  • Northwestern Mutual. ...
  • BlackRock. ...
  • Goldman Sachs. ...
  • Prudential. ...
  • Morgan Stanley. Provider of wealth, financial management, and investment advisory services. ...
  • BNY Mellon. Provider of business consultation, investment, and wealth management services.
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How does Edward Jones rank as a financial advisor? ›

1 in national survey of financial advisors.

Where does Edward Jones rank among investment firms? ›

Edward Jones has been named to Fortune magazine's 2023 list of the World's Most Admired Companies, a recognition of the most respected and reputable companies globally. The firm ranked No. 5 in the Securities/Asset Management industry category.

Is investing with Edward Jones a good idea? ›

Verdict — Is Edward Jones worth it? For the average investor, Edward Jones is probably not the best choice. You could spend more time learning about making investment decisions by yourself and choose a platform with lower fees.

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