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How to merge three brokerage accounts at Vanguard?

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I am in the process of cleaning up the financial mess I've made for myself. One of those pieces is trying to consolidate all my accounts into one institution, and eventually one account. For a variety of reasons I now have three different brokerage accounts all at vanguard: each with a mixture of holdings. These are all taxable accounts.

Is it possible to merge all the accounts via some online process? Do I need to call them?

(I hope this is the right forum)

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If the accounts are all the same (taxable, Ira, Roth IRA) there should be no problem consolidating them. Certainly calling vanguard is one way to do it.
This form could also be used.
https://personal.vanguard.com/pdf/v413t.pdf?2210122887
I don’t know if you can do it online or not.

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I have two taxable accounts at Vanguard. I have transfered shares of funds from one account to the other. When I did that, the shares were not sold, that would trigger a taxable event, instead the shares were just moved from one account to the other which is what I wanted. And the cost basis of the shares transfered was automatically processed properly.

Keep in mind that moving shares around means that cost basis can complicate things. I did run into some difficulties with some shares when I had specific ID as my cost basis method and simultaneously wanted to convert investor class shares to admiral class shares, but that is the only time I had any problem.

If you are concerned that something could go wrong, you could call Vanguard and have them move the shares from the account you wish to close to the account you want to keep open. And if you called them you could ask them what the cost basis ramifications would be before you make such a transfer.

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For anyone else that wants to do this:

I called them. I was told that all I need to do is "exchange funds" from account into the other (this looks like you're selling one and buying another). This would result in a "transfer" which has no taxable consequences and keeps the same cost basis. While doable online, I opted to do it over the phone.

They asked they I switch from specific id to "first in first out" during this process. I believe this was only for the transaction as my account still says SpecID for all holdings.

edited to make more clear

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AHumanInterest wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:40 amI called them. I was told that all I need to do is sell in one account and purchase in another.

This doesn't make sense to me. A "sell" is a sell and it doesn't move the dollar value anywhere. It just stays in the settlement fund in the original account.

Could you explain this again? Or maybe you aren't really merging accounts, but doing something else.

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celia wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:51 am

AHumanInterest wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:40 amI called them. I was told that all I need to do is sell in one account and purchase in another.

This doesn't make sense to me. A "sell" is a sell and it doesn't move the dollar value anywhere. It just stays in the settlement fund in the original account.

Could you explain this again? Or maybe you aren't really merging accounts, but doing something else.

It is my understanding that the exchange process would get translated to a transfer on the backend, so long as both accounts are at vanguard.

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A transfer between accounts is completely different and the way you want to go.

Suppose there are two customers who want to do different things. Mr. Sellbuy wants to realize some capital gains but not change his asset allocation. So he sells in one account while buying in another. The sell transaction causes a tax form to be generated showing the profit/loss since the asset was acquired. This is a taxable event. Both accounts still have about the same value the next day.

Meanwhile, Mr. Transfer wants to move all his shares to his other account and he requests that the tax basis (original cost) be carried over so that when he sells some day, only the growth will be taxed. The transfer is not a taxable event. It is like taking money out of your right pocket and putting it in the left pocket with the money that is already there. The right pocket is then empty while the left one has more value in it than it had previously.

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I understand the difference. I was told (on a recorded line no less) that this process would result in a transfer, have no taxable consequences, and keep my cost basis.

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It seems to have been successfully recorded as a transfer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq39x0x7ducu6 ... 0.png?dl=0

Also, to make things more clear: I believe they wanted me to use the "exchange" button, not actually do a sell and a buy. That said, this was all done over the phone.

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AHumanInterest wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:26 amIt seems to have been successfully recorded as a transfer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq39x0x7ducu6 ... 0.png?dl=0

Also, to make things more clear: I believe they wanted me to use the "exchange" button, not actually do a sell and a buy. That said, this was all done over the phone.

Big difference between Exchange and Sell.

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AHumanInterest wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:26 amIt seems to have been successfully recorded as a transfer: ...

Thanks for reporting back on how it went.

I'd like to point out that this wouldn't work online for transferring ETF shares held in one account into another similarly-registered account because there doesn't seem to be an "Exchange" option for ETFs -- there are only Buy and Sell options.

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celia wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:51 am

AHumanInterest wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:40 amI called them. I was told that all I need to do is sell in one account and purchase in another.

This doesn't make sense to me. A "sell" is a sell and it doesn't move the dollar value anywhere. It just stays in the settlement fund in the original account.

Could you explain this again? Or maybe you aren't really merging accounts, but doing something else.

It would be like an ACATS in-kind transfer from one custodian to another. In this case, it's the same custodian.

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How to merge three brokerage accounts at Vanguard? (2024)

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Combining 401(k) accounts: How to get started

Gather your most recent 401(k) and IRA statements. To transfer these accounts, you need statements that are less than 90 days old. Collect online rollover or transfer forms and contact information from your brokerage company or previous employer.

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Diversification. Having multiple IRAs allows for greater diversification of investment portfolios, reducing the risk of loss from any single investment. This is particularly important for retirement savings, as retirement funds should not be subject to excessive risk.

Can I combine all of my retirement accounts? ›

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What to do when you have multiple retirement accounts? ›

If you're eligible, you can contribute to both a Roth and traditional IRA in the same year—though you can only contribute up to the annual contribution limit among all of your traditional or Roth IRAs. You can contribute to a 401(k) and an IRA in the same year.

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You can transfer money from the individual account to the joint account. You cannot transfer money from the joint account to the individual account.

How do I transfer stocks from one account to another? ›

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In general, you can:
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  3. Roll over your money to your new employer's plan.

Can I open a Vanguard account for my wife? ›

It's not a joint account, but rather a separate IRA set up in your spouse's name. You must be married and filing a joint tax return in order to open a spousal IRA.

Can I add someone to my brokerage account? ›

You can choose an individual account (in your name only) or a joint account (with multiple equal owners), or you can open other types of taxable accounts.

Can you make a brokerage account joint? ›

When you open a brokerage account, you need to choose between an individual or joint brokerage account. Joint brokerage accounts are beneficial if you're looking to pool your investments with another person, such as a spouse or family member, and can be a way to simplify investment management and/or estate planning.

Can you change brokerage accounts without selling? ›

An in-kind or ACAT transfer allows you to transfer your investments between brokers as is, meaning you don't have to sell investments and transfer the cash proceeds — you can simply move your existing investments to the new broker.

Is transferring a brokerage account taxable? ›

Myth 1: Brokerage transfers require you to pay taxes.

Not necessarily. If you do an in-kind transfer, meaning you move your stocks from one brokerage to another without buying or selling, you won't pay taxes because the transfer isn't considered a taxable event.

How long does it take to transfer brokerage accounts? ›

Once the customer account information is properly matched and the receiving firm decides to accept the account, the delivering firm will take approximately three days to move the assets to the new firm.

What is the rule of 55 for Vanguard? ›

Under the terms of this rule, you can withdraw funds from your current job's 401(k) or 403(b) plan with no 10% tax penalty if you leave that job in or after the year you turn 55. (Qualified public safety workers can start even earlier, at 50.) It doesn't matter whether you were laid off, fired, or just quit.

How much money should you have in your 401k when you retire? ›

By age 50, you should have six times your salary in an account. By age 60, you should have eight times your salary working for you. By age 67, your total savings total goal is 10 times the amount of your current annual salary. So, for example, if you're earning $75,000 per year, you should have $750,000 saved.

How do I transfer my Vanguard 401k to another company? ›

Log into your Vanguard account online and look for the “Options if I leave my employer” link. Follow the instructions from there to initiate your rollover.

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