Don't sh*t where you eat: Amid "Vanderpump Rules" scandal, Schwartz & Sandy’s gets an age-old lesson (2024)

Is the buzz generated by a scandal good or bad for business?

By Kelly McClure

Nights & Weekends Editor

Published March 10, 2023 1:30PM (EST)

Don't sh*t where you eat: Amid "Vanderpump Rules" scandal, Schwartz & Sandy’s gets an age-old lesson (1)

A general view of atmosphere at the Friends and Family Opening at Schwartz & Sandy's with the cast of "Vanderpump Rules" at Schwartz & Sandy's Lounge on July 26, 2022 in Los Angeles, California.( Amanda Edwards/Getty Images)

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Schwartz & Sandy's Lounge(S&S), a Los Angeles bar and eatery co-owned by reality TV starsTom Sandoval and TomSchwartzand featured on "Vanderpump Rules" ("VPR"), is ground zero for an unfolding scandal affecting the future of their real-world business.

Will the impact prove to be negative or positive in the long run? The answer depends on a few varying factors, and Salon asked a Bravo expert to weigh in.

Last Friday, TMZ broke the news that Ariana Madix, Sandoval's girlfriend and "VPR" castmate, had ended their nine-year relationship after discovering that Sandoval wasembroiled in acheating scandalwith yet another castmate,Raquel (Rachel) Leviss.

From there, the intricate and messy details of an affair that would affect no one outside of a relatively small circle of friends and co-workers— were they not part of apopular Bravo reality TV show— has evolved into a JFK/Grassy Knoll level piecing together of facts and rumors resulting in friends and fans taking sides and taking it out onS&S.

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Presently, the websphere is awash with people from all walks of life who are learning about both "VPR" andS&S for the first time, due to what is now being referred to as the#Scandoval. For anyone new to the drama of this show and the businesses that have popped up like little freckles on its shoulder, an easy conclusion to jump to may be that this cheating business is all "for ratings," but there are real lives and relationships being fiddled with here.

Sure, one could claim that signing up to be on a reality show is an "at your own risk" scenario, and applying to work at a place likeS&S or TomTom, another bar from the same owners, would imply a certain lessening in personal privacy given both are filming locations and this is— above all— the playground for a TV show. But bad Yelp reviews,which have been flooding into all Vanderpump-adjacent establishments since last week, have a way of putting things into perspective by turning "good" bad publicity into just bad publicity.

After a considerable delay due to Sandoval andSchwartz being new business owners learning their way,S&S officially opened its doors to the public in November 2022. As of the time of this writing, the establishment only has 77Yelp reviews, a small number that is not so unusual for a business that has only existed for a short period of time. What is unusual, however, is what those Yelp reviews say.

Don't sh*t where you eat: Amid "Vanderpump Rules" scandal, Schwartz & Sandy’s gets an age-old lesson (2)Television personalities Tom Sandoval (L) and Ariana Madix attend the Friends and Family Opening at Schwartz & Sandy's with the cast of "Vanderpump Rules" at Schwartz & Sandy's Lounge on July 26, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Amanda Edwards/Getty Images)"This business is being monitored by Yelp's Support team for content related to media reports," a banner at the top of the page reads, with another text box alerting to unusual activity that has impacted the visibility of reviews.

While it's clear that the owners of S&S have been trying to scrape away at some of the negative comments recently pouring in on Yelp, a scan of the first few still paints a clear picture of what's going on beneath the surface.

In a review from March 4, an individual gives a one-star rating saying "great marketing for this place, but pictures are deceiving. The place is small, decor is tacky, and food is mediocre. Much better food & drink options in the area. Also, it was weird to see Raquel was there for photo-ops with the Toms, instead of Ariana."

"There has been intense backlash from fans around the world because this scandal is truly so shocking."

Further down in the reviews, also from March 4, a person gives a three-star rating, ending a lengthy review with "BTW, I feel bad for Ariana but also think people should stop slu*t-shaming Raquel. Tom is the one who did this to Ariana. He is the one who deserves his head to be photoshopped onto roaches."

This has to be confusing for someone visiting Los Angeles from elsewhere, perhaps sitting in a hotel seeking out a place to grab drinks for the night, who may see something like this and think: "Who the hell is Raquel? I'm just trying to get an espresso martini."

With even The New York Times reporting on this drama, "VPR" has been garnering so much press as the 10th season airs that Bravo resumed filmingto capture the scandal unfolding in real-time, a move which is largely unprecedented.

Since the previous season was such a snooze in terms of fan feedback and general ratings, the timing of this may seem suspicious. Salon reached out toMaggie Kelley, founder ofBest of Bravo, who weighed in with her thoughts on the matter, as well as how she sees this playing out forS&S.

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"I see a lot of people commenting that they think this drama is fake and production's way of boosting ratings. I don't think that at all. I think it is very, very real," Kelley said in an email. "As for Schwartz and Sandy's, I could see it going either way. I could see fans wanting to go to the bar in case they run into Schwartz, Sandoval or Raquel, so they can see them in action and maybe get some tea. Or, I could see people never wanting to go there . . . Right now, I think people will flock there in hopes to see 'VPR' being filmed."

As far as ratings go, Kelley seems to think this is the best thing to happen to "VPR" in the history of the show.

"Obviously, there has been intense backlash from fans around the world because this scandal is truly so shocking. This is all anyone can talk about or wants to talk about,"Kelley continued."The early seasons of 'VPR' are the best reality TV I've ever seen, and we all became instantly hooked. In my opinion, it's the biggest scandal in Bravo history because we have spent the last 10 years of our lives completely invested in the Pumpers' lives. Not only that, but there are so many layers when it comes to this friend group, making the scandal even more enthralling. We have an entire season of 'VPR' left to watch and analyze . . . and I know more news will continue to come out.I don't see this ride stopping anytime soon, and in fact, I think we're just getting started."

Salon reached out toS&S for a response to the scandal but has yet to receive a response.

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Has Schwartz and Sandy's lost business? ›

Despite the confirmation that Scwhartz & Sandy's remains in operation, there is a push to rebrand the eatery. “Greg [Morris] and the Tom Toms have had recent discussions where they sat down and tried to make a game plan of how they can refocus on S&S and just put the past behind them,” an insider explained.

Does Greg own Schwartz and Sandys? ›

Watch Vanderpump Rules on Bravo Tuesdays at 8/7c and next day on Peaco*ck. Catch up on the Bravo app. Through the ups and downs Tom has experienced opening both bars, he noted, "I have amazing [mentors]: Lisa Vanderpump, Greg Morris [an owner of Schwartz & Sandy's], [and] my dad opened a bunch of bars."

Who is the owner of Schwartz and Sandy's? ›

Sandoval and Schwartz are both owners of the restaurant with Lisa Vanderpump and Ken Todd, who are also investors. A source told The U.S. Sun: "As for the opening credits, there was never a discussion about them not filming at Schwartz & Sandy's for the opening credits.

Who got cheated on Vanderpump Rules? ›

The Season 10 “Vanderpump Rules” finale, which aired in May 17, shows the explosive fight Madix and Sandoval had March 3, two days after Madix learned about her boyfriend's infidelity. Madix said she discovered the affair by watching a FaceTime call between Leviss and Sandoval.

Do Ariana and Katie have a sandwich shop? ›

Get a New Look Inside Katie Maloney and Ariana Madix's Sandwich Shop, Something About Her.

Do Tom and Tom still own TomTom? ›

TomTom, of course, is her joint venture with Sandoval and Tom Schwartz. Together the two Toms own 5% of the business, while Lisa and her partners own the rest. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills alum was forced to close Pump in July 2023 due to issues with her landlord.

Does Tom Sandoval still own part of Schwartz and Sandy's? ›

Stepping Back From Schwartz & Sandy's

He's been mostly a silent partner,” Schwartz said on “The Viall Files” podcast in January 2024. “Yes, he is [still financially involved].” Schwartz also elaborated on the backlash Schwartz & Sandy's initially received, adding, “There's been a shift.

How much is Schwartz and Sandy's rent? ›

Then I have $3,500 in rent. That's not even counting bills, our lease here.” “Once you get that money for your house, you can put that into this,” Sandoval said, which made Schwartz chuckle.

What does Katie Maloney Schwartz do for a living? ›

The reality series explored Maloney's ups and downs as she balanced a waitress job at SUR, her beauty, fashion and lifestyle website Pucker and Pout and her relationship with Tom Schwartz. As the series continued, Maloney moved on from the restaurant and started her own podcast, “You're Gonna Love Me.”

Are people boycotting Schwartz and Sandy's? ›

After co-owner Tom Sandoval's affair with Rachel Leviss became known, patrons started boycotting the restaurant that he opened with Tom Schwartz. Ariana Madix's supporters flooded Yelp with negative reviews. The Toms were at risk of losing their investment. But nearly a year later, the bar is still open.

Did Lisa invest in Schwartz and Sandy's? ›

Vanderpump asked the pair to join forces for her next West Hollywood venture, and both Toms have a 5% stake in the business after investing $50,000 each. Vanderpump has no involvement in Schwartz & Sandy's.

How much of TomTom does Tom own? ›

Tom also owns a 5 percent stake in one of Lisa's bars, TomTom, which they co-own with Tom Schwartz. All told, Tom Sandoval is worth an estimated $4 million, per Celebrity Net Worth. Tom Sandoval is an American reality star known for being an original cast member on Vanderpump Rules.

Is Schwartz and Sandy's doing well now? ›

We're going to change some of the decor, new food, new drinks, but it's like a Schwarz & Sandy's Resuscitation 2.0, a resurgence, and it feels good. Last night I was in there, it was such a great vibe. I don't know, it just felt right. It felt good again for the first time in a long time,” he continued.

Did LVP invest in Schwartz and Sandy's? ›

Later, on Part 1 of the show's Season 10 reunion, Lisa Vanderpump explained that she returned both Schwartz and Sandoval's investments in Tom Tom “the week they opened [Schwartz & Sandy's] because they needed money.”

Is Katie and Ariana Sandwich Shop open? ›

When life gives you Sandovals, make sandwiches? Ariana Madix's sandwich shop with Katie Maloney is not a scam … as far as we can tell. We've known about the physical location in West Hollywood for a while now, but the U.S. Sun reports that Something About Her finally has an (unconfirmed) opening date: May 22, 2024.

How much did Katie Maloney and Tom Schwartz sell their home for? ›

For Maloney, 36, and Schwartz, 40, their former home was the first they had ever purchased — back in 2019 — for $1.92 million. Occupying more than 3,400 square feet, they ultimately sold the property in August 2022 for $2.45 million.

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