4 Men with 4 Very Different Incomes Open Up About the Lives They Can Afford (2024)

The median household income in America is $53,657.Politicians draw $250,000 as the line between the middle and upper classes. And the true starting point of real wealth remains a cool $1,000,000. We asked four more or less typical men, each of whom earns one of these incomes, to tell us about the lives they can afford.

$1,000,000 Per Year -Tim Nguyen, 35

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Location:Huntington Beach, California

Occupation:Business owner, CEO/cofounder of BeSmartee, a DIY mortgage marketplace

Family status:Married with a 9-month-old son

Homeowner? Renter?"I'm a homeowner. No mortgage." (Price of home: $1 million.)

Do you keep a budget?We track every single penny that comes in and out of our bank account. And we give 6 percent of our money away to charity. We have a big heart for animals, children, the el­derly, the underprivileged.

What's a weekly grocery bill for you?I break it down monthly. We eat main­ly at home. We spend around $1,200 a month.

One thing your family needs but can't afford:There's nothing that we need that we can't afford. AnythingreasonableI can afford.

One thing you want but can't afford:The thing that keeps me up at night is want­ing to retire my parents.There's a certain dollar figure that would allow me to pay off all their debts. That's my first goal: to retire my parents so they can be independent and just live their lives.

The last thing you bought that required serious plan­ning:We budget our money all the time, so we've already been planning for every­thing—I could tell you exactly where all my money is going over the next five years.

Do you have credit cards?I have one credit card. It's cash for points, so we charge ev­erything on the card and pay it off at the end of the month.

How much debt are you carrying now?Less than 10grand.

I've been broke before. I've refinanced my house to pay my employees. I've been through all that—that was me worried.

Saving for retirement?Yes. [I've put away] north of $5 million.

At what age would you like to retire?I'll always be working. As far as working on a start-up, I want to bedone with that in five or 10 years. But as far as working, investing in real estate, things of that nature, you can do that until you're 90.

College plans for your kids?We set up a trust with our at­torney where our kids will have money for college. But they'll only get more than that if they achieve their milestones, such as getting a certain GPA or vol­unteering in the community. We want our kids to be good citizens. They can't be spoiled brats. We want them to understand what it means to work and to earn your way to the top. We put the rules in place to help reinforce that.

Looking at your current ca­reer prospects, how much money do you think you'll be earning in ten years' time?My goal is to have a net worth of $150 to $200 million.

How happy are you on anygiven day, on a scale ofone to ten?I'd say eight or nine. Lately, with the start­-up, I've been putting in two tothree hours more per day than I'd like, and that's taking away from family time. So if I could get those two or three hours back, I'd be a happy man.

How often do you worry about money?Maybe once aweek. I've been broke before. I've refinanced my house to pay my employees. I've been through all that—that was me worried. Now, because I'm able to forecast and plan my money better, there's not as much worry.

How muchmoney do you think you'd need to have the life you want?I need about 25 [million]. That includes retiring my parents, an upgraded home, and enough money to make sure my kids have funds available when they want to start their own businesses. There's a certain amount of mon­ey you need to live the life you want. Beyond that, it's really a game, and money is the scoreboard.

Do you think your taxes are too high?I'm happy with taxes. I had a really good year when I was 22or 23—I made about 250 grand—and I came home and complained to my dad about it. I said, "I can't believe I'm paying all those taxes! Half the money is gone!"And my dad said, "You should feel lucky that you live in a country where you can pay taxes": He came from a communist-run coun­try. Ever since that day, I never complain about my taxes.

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$250,000 Per Year -Yakov Villasmil, 41

Location:Miami

Occupation:Real Estate Agent

Family Status:In a relationship; one son, 10 years old

Monthly rent:$2,000

Do you keep a budget? Yes, I'm very organized with it. Overall, my fixed expenses are about $7,000 a month. They include rent and about $1,000 a month for transportation, $180 a month to the cleaning lady, $200 for gas for the vehicle, and a handful of little things—$300 a month for Netflix, Pandora, Skype, subscriptions like that.

What's a weekly grocerybill for you?I would say about $200 a week.

At this point in my life, if I had $600,000 yearly income, I would have the life that I want to be living. But then again, when I get there, I'll want to buy the jet.

One thing your familyneeds but can't afford:Nothing.

One thing you want butcan't afford:I'm a fan of watches, and there's a Cartier that just came out that's about $10,000. It's not that I can't afford it; it's just not a priority right now.

The last thing you boughtthat required serious plan­ning:I spend money trav­eling every year, and that's something I put some thought into. LastDecember, I went to Austria, Slovenia, and Italy.

Do you have credit cards?Fifteen.

How much debt are youcarrying now?$7,700 on one card, and it should be paid off by the end of the month.

Saving for retirement?I am saving, but not for re­tirement. I'm saving up to buy an apartment building, which will give me another stream of income. My money is all in play right now to make more money. The kind of life that I want to live when I retire is not one I have to manage by having, you know, a million dollars and 3 or 4 percent [interest]. It's not going to happen.

At what age would youlike to retire?I don't think that I want to retire.

But say you did: At what agewould you be able to retire?I want to be financially free by age 50.

College plans for your kid?No, but it's all part of making sound investments.

Lookingat your current career prospects, how much money do you think you'll be earning per year in 10years' time?In 10 years' time, I want to have $50,000 a month from apartment buildings,and another $50,000 a month from the real estate business. A million-five per year is the goal.

How often do you worryabout money?Every single day. Every single minute. I always want more, and every single day I'm thinking, "What's the next move?"

How much money do youthink you'd need to have the life you want?At this point in my life, if I had $600,000 yearly income, I would have the life that I want to be living. But then again, when I get there, I'll want to buy the jet.

How happy are you, on ascale of one to 10?I'm a good nine every day.

Do you think your taxes aretoo high?You know what? No, I don't think they're too high. I re­member I had a boss about 10 years ago who said, "You guys complain about the tax­es being taken out—if you don't want them to take that much, just make less."

$53,000 Per Year -Michael Greene, 48

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Location:Brooklyn

Occupation:Concierge for a property-management group

Family status:Married with 3 children (a 21-year-old stepson and 8-year-old twin girls)

Monthly rent:$1,000

Do you keep a budget?

We do. Because of the size of our family, we have to budget at least $150 per month for BJ's [Wholesale Club]. BJ's is our friend; we have to buy in bulk.

What's a weekly grocerybill for you?Probably in the range of $100 to $125.

I'd love to stay in Brooklyn, but right now the asking price is between $500,000 and $600,000.

One thing your familyneeds but can't afford:A ranch-style home, four to five bedrooms, two to three bathrooms. I'd love to stay in Brooklyn, but right now the asking price is between $500,000 and $600,000.

One thing you want butcan't afford:I've always liked Volvos. If I could get a big, six-seater Volvo, that would be nice. In my color: navy blue. With a little TV in the back for the kids.

Thelast thing youbought that required serious planning?We bought bedroom sets for ourselves and our girls four years ago. Our set was between $5,000 and $6,000, with the dressers and everything. Our girls' little beds—which they're about to outgrow now—we got a better deal for them: around $2,000 or $2,500. I had to go into my savings a bit to get it, but we got it. We got it done.

Do you have credit cards?Just one. A Chase Visa. I'm definitely on top of my month­ly payments, and I try not to go anywhere past $300 to $400 a month. That wouldbe stretching it. And I have to thank my wife for that. She helps me stay focused.

How much debt are youcarrying now?No credit-card debt, but I definitely still have a student loan from the mid-nineties that I'm trying to bang out. I think I still have seven G's left.

Saving for retirement?Yes, I am. Our company of­fers a 401(k) plan, and our union offers one, so I have two separate running re­tirement plans. Gotta do it. I don't know how much is in there at the moment.

At what age would you liketo retire?I'm 48now. Realistically, I'd say I wouldn't want to go past 60. But I think I'm looking at 60 be­fore I'll be able to retire.

College plans for yourkids?We have a college plan in place for the girls. I put away money biweekly—$75 to $100.

How much money do youthink you'll be earning peryear in 10 years' time?I'd love to say I'll be making dou­ble if not more than double what I'm making now.

How often do you worryabout money?Money is not something that I stress over.

How much money do youthink you'd need to havethe life you want?I'm not a greedy guy. Because of my upbringing, where we learned how to do more with less, and with the times and the econ­omy we live in now, my fami­ly and I could be very comfort­able at $200 to $250K a year. I could be very comfortable with that.

How happy are you, on ascale of one to ten?Eight.

Do you think your taxes aretoo high?Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

The Poverty Line (Or: $7 An Hour Plus Tips) -Demetrius Campbell, 25

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Location:Chicago

Occupation:Bar-back at the Signature Lounge in the John Hanco*ck building

Family status:Single with two daughters, 7 and 4

Monthly rent:30 percent of income through antipoverty nonprofit Heartland Alliance

Do you keep a budget?No, but I have been working on trying to recently. I knowI have to pay bills for food, for clothes, gas. It's a lot of things that go into budget­ing. It's hard to plan for, be­cause you never really know what you're going to need to spend money on. And the amount of money I make var­ies, because I work different hours. The biggest two-week check I've had so far is $250.

I'm in a lot of debt. I have traffic tick­ets, hospital bills, old phone bills. I'm pretty sure that my debt from the tickets alone is roughly $3,000.

What's a weekly grocerybill for you?In a week, about $130 to $140—that's when I have the money to spend. I'm on food stamps, and I get $400 a month through EBT.

One thing your family needs but can't afford:I don't really think about stuff like that. I just try to make do with what I have. I feel like I'm just working to pay for the bills. I don't even have time to spend with my family—to take them out to certain places.

One thing you want butcan't afford:I'dbuy a newer-model car. And every time those commercials come on TV—the Pillow Pets—my kids always ask for those. It's discouraging, having to tell them all the time that we can't afford things.

The last thing you boughtthat required serious plan­ning:I bought a TV—a Black Friday deal. It's a Vizio 39-inch. I paid like $250. I had to work for it. I saved up.

"Do you have credit cards?No.

How much debt are youcarrying now?I'm in a lot of debt. I have traffic tick­ets, hospital bills, old phone bills. I'm pretty sure that my debt from the tickets alone is roughly $3,000. By the time you get the money to pay the ticket, the fine has doubled. Then you get another one and can't pay that one. Like, I'm on a boot [booted vehi­cles] list, and I got the money to get off the list, but my car got towed that morning, so I had to pay half that money to get it out of the impound. It just keeps going like that."

Saving for retirement?No. Retirement is a long ways from now.

At what age would you liketo retire?As young as I can and still have money. Probably late 60s.

College plans for yourkids?I've thought about it. Once I get all my debts paid off and I'm in a better place, I'll start putting as much money as I can toward it. I'll take steps to put myself in better standing.

How much money do youthink you'll be earning peryear in 10years' time?My goal is to triple what I'm making now.

How often do you worryabout money?Always. Living like this is hard to do.

Does money ever keep you up at night?I can say that it has. It's a lot of things building up—having the money when the bills are due, having a ticket, and not being able to pay it before it doubles.

How much money do youthink you'd need to have thelife you want?50 to 60thousand a year.

How happy are you, on a scale of one to 10?I'd say a seven or eight. But you might get lucky and catch me on 10 now and then.

Do you think your taxes aretoo high?Yes, I do.

Illustrations by Stuart Patience.

This article originally appears in the April 2016 issue.

4 Men with 4 Very Different Incomes Open Up About the Lives They Can Afford (2024)

FAQs

What income is considered rich for a single person? ›

You'll need to earn more than half a million annually to be considered among the highest earning residents in 11 states and Washington, D.C. "This comes down to cost of living," Murray said.

What is the top 1 income worldwide? ›

If you earn $60,000 a year after tax and you don't have kids, you're in the richest 1 percent of the world's population. If you have a household income of $130,000 after tax and you've got a partner and one kid, you're also in the richest 1 percent.

What is the poor class income? ›

Where you rank by income. According to the Census Bureau's Income in the United States: 2022 report, the median household income is $74,580 (a 2.3% decline from 2021), while household income levels for each class level are as follows: Lower class: less than or equal to $30,000. Lower-middle class: $30,001 – $58,020.

What is the income for the upper class? ›

In 2020, according to Pew Research Center analysis, the median for upper income households was around $220,000 and the median for middle income households was slightly above $90,000.

Is 200k a year rich? ›

If you had an income of $200,000, that would put you in the top 12% of household incomes or the top 5% of individual incomes in 2022. Though I prefer household income over individual income, no matter how you cut it, $200k a year puts you on the higher end of the income spectrum.

What's considered rich in 2024? ›

To be considered very high net worth, one might need assets ranging from $5 million to $10 million, while an ultra-high net worth status could require $30 million or more.

What salary is middle class? ›

As of 2022 (the most recent Census data), the average median household income in the U.S. was $73,914, meaning the national range for the middle class is roughly $49,271 to $147,828. Across the nation's largest cities, the range is between $51,558 and $154,590, according to SmartAsset.

What social class is rich? ›

The term upper class is a socioeconomic term used to describe those who reside on the highest levels of the social ladder above the middle and working or lower classes. They generally have the highest status in society and hold a great deal of wealth.

Is 150k good salary? ›

"To escape the lower middle class, you'll need to earn as much as $150,000, which is substantially higher than what it used to be." In some high-cost cities, a $150,000 annual salary is stretched financially thin and qualifies as a "lower middle class" income, according to a recent analysis from GOBankingRates.

Are doctors middle class? ›

The lower middle class is often made up of less educated people with lower incomes, such as managers, small business owners, teachers, and secretaries. The upper middle class is often made up of highly educated business and professional people with high incomes, such as doctors, lawyers, stockbrokers, and CEOs.

What is a good household income? ›

“Good income is relative to the average household income in America, which is $78,000 right now.” Real median household income in the U.S. was $78,250 in 2019 and fell to $74,580 in 2022, according to the Census Bureau.

Do upper class pay taxes? ›

The nation's top earners send about one-quarter of their income to the IRS each year. The top 10%, with incomes of at least $169,800, pay about three-quarters of the nation's tax bill, the analysis found.

What is considered high income for one person? ›

Based on that figure, an annual income of $500,000 or more would make you rich. The Economic Policy Institute uses a different baseline to determine who constitutes the top 1% and the top 5%. For 2021, you're in the top 1% if you earn $819,324 or more each year. The top 5% of income earners make $335,891 per year.

What is a good income for a single person? ›

But just how much does a single person in California need to make to live comfortably? A new study from Smart Asset determined that a person must make at least $ 89,190 to get by comfortably.

What salary is considered middle class for a single person? ›

With New Jersey ranking as the top state to make the most money to be considered middle class, other states ranking in the top five requiring salaries exceeding $50,000 to be in this category include Maryland ($63,321) and Massachusetts ($62,986), Hawaii ($61,633) and California ($61,028).

What's considered rich vs. wealthy? ›

There is a difference between being rich and being wealthy in terms of money and financial resources. Being rich typically means having a lot of possessions and material wealth, while being wealthy is more about having sustainable and lasting wealth.

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